Alabama Megathread 3: Results Thread

[Former Kentuckian]

Arkansas Yankee, I say this with kindness: you need to relax.

[Former Kentuckian]

How is trash talking voters who support an alleged pedophile elitist and derogatory?

[Former Kentuckian]

How is trash talking voters who support an alleged pedophile elitist and derogatory?

HE IS NOT A PEDOPHILE!!!

I bet some Jones supporters are using this language in Alabama.  I bet it is boomeranging. That may be why the polls are going the way they are.

I said alleged pedophile, which he is. He has been alleged to be a pedophile. No one can prove he is or isn't right now, that's what alleged means. Even voting for an alleged pedophile is awful and should be treated as such, in my opinion.

[Former Kentuckian]

Another article (from NBC) about concerns over Black voter turnout: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/amp/jones-needs-black-voters-beat-moore-alabama-try-telling-them-n827846

White journalists flying in to interrogate them over the election probably isn't helping, tbh

[Former Kentuckian]

Another article (from NBC) about concerns over Black voter turnout: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/amp/jones-needs-black-voters-beat-moore-alabama-try-telling-them-n827846

White journalists flying in to interrogate them over the election probably isn't helping, tbh

I swear they wrote tons of these during the VA GOV race

"Hurr Durr Northam isn't turning out minorities"

It's a recurring theme and I hate it. It puts undue pressure on non-white voters, imo, and if the result is unfavorable (like the 2016 presidential), then there are articles asking WHY non-white voters didn't turn out enough.

[Former Kentuckian]

How is trash talking voters who support an alleged pedophile elitist and derogatory?

HE IS NOT A PEDOPHILE!!!

I bet some Jones supporters are using this language in Alabama.  I bet it is boomeranging. That may be why the polls are going the way they are.

I said alleged pedophile, which he is. He has been alleged to be a pedophile. No one can prove he is or isn't right now, that's what alleged means. Even voting for an alleged pedophile is awful and should be treated as such, in my opinion.

He still cannot be an alleged pedophile. By definition they deal with children through 13.

If they use the language, I bet it backfires a lot in Alabama.

I'm genuinely uncomfortable, and a little upset, by the way you're behaving in this thread and the previous one about this election. Roy Moore is accused of robbing children of their innocence, childhood, and so much more. It doesn't matter if they were 13 or 14 (as Leigh Corfman says she was in her allegation). They were underage and he was allegedly  in a position of power and influence. That's what matters. I don't argue on the internet, but I will say that I hope you treat this and similar issues with more respect and maturity in real life than you do here instead of defending people who are accused of this, and defending people who would vote for someone accused of this

[Former Kentuckian]

Let's just all agree on the term "kiddy diddler" ok? Also Ted Kennedy.

Ok with me.  But a huge number of people do not know what it means.  They might not google it.

Why don’t you just say what you claim he did.  You should also say he did it 40 years ago.

If someone killed someone 40 years ago, they're still a murderer.

[Former Kentuckian]

How is trash talking voters who support an alleged pedophile elitist and derogatory?

HE IS NOT A PEDOPHILE!!!

I bet some Jones supporters are using this language in Alabama.  I bet it is boomeranging. That may be why the polls are going the way they are.

I said alleged pedophile, which he is. He has been alleged to be a pedophile. No one can prove he is or isn't right now, that's what alleged means. Even voting for an alleged pedophile is awful and should be treated as such, in my opinion.

He still cannot be an alleged pedophile. By definition they deal with children through 13.

If they use the language, I bet it backfires a lot in Alabama.

I'm genuinely uncomfortable, and a little upset, by the way you're behaving in this thread and the previous one about this election. Roy Moore is accused of robbing children of their innocence, childhood, and so much more. It doesn't matter if they were 13 or 14 (as Leigh Corfman says she was in her allegation). They were underage and he was allegedly  in a position of power and influence. That's what matters. I don't argue on the internet, but I will say that I hope you treat this and similar issues with more respect and maturity in real life than you do here instead of defending people who are accused of this, and defending people who would vote for someone accused of this

I refer to Powerline blog for much better statement of my concerns with the only two victims who statements actually allege abuse:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/12/beverly-nelsons-credibility-takes-another-hit.php

We now know that Nelson has lied about the notations in the yearbook.  What else is she lying about. Saying that, she may be telling the truth.  But she may not be.

Corfman alleged that her emotional problems began with Moore’s molestation.  However court records indicate she was in court for those emotional problems, when she met Moore.  The court records indicate her emotional state  got better after the alleged molestation.  I like the writer of the article do not know whether to believe her.

I also know that 38 years have passed without further allegations.  I do not believe that mercy is not available for him.  I would choose to send him to the Senate, as he would support more of the policies I support than Jones.  I would let the Senate ethics Committee deal with whether he should remain in the Senate and the validity of the claims.  

Please get off your self righteous horse.  Quit denigrating the morality of people who do not agree with you.

By the way I do not think the mere allegations against Franken are of a nature to drive him out of the Senate without a hearing.  I am not interested in engaging in a witch hunt for political heads.

I'll stay on my self-righteous horse because I can honestly say I would cross party lines to avoid voting for an alleged pedophile. And while I'm still on my self-righteous horse, I'll say that I sincerely feel sorry for you.

[Former Kentuckian]

I like this photo; it’s very badass.

I like to imagine they're guarding a mall

(jk jk)

[Former Kentuckian]

Oh

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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/10/roy-moore-alabama-philadelphia-football-army-navy-288861

That was nightmarish from start to finish, damn.

[Former Kentuckian]

If you don't follow the polls board, you've missed that we have a Moore +9 poll from Emerson and a Jones +10 poll from Fox News today. Anyone's guess.

God, this election is going to give me an aneurysm

[Former Kentuckian]

Michael McDonald‏ @ElectProject
Michael McDonald Retweeted Bridget Bowman
This seems too low to me. I hope Alabama election officials are preparing for higher turnout
 
@bridgetbhc
AL Secretary of State John Merrill says on NPR that he’s expecting  at least 25% turnout in tomorrow’s election #ALSEN
1:37 PM - 11 Dec 2017

https://twitter.com/ElectProject/status/940289520729231361

I hope people won't leave if they aren't prepared.

[Former Kentuckian]

It might have already been posted, but Nate Silver wrote about all the crazy polling we've had today: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-hell-is-happening-with-these-alabama-polls/

[Former Kentuckian]

The Alabama Democratic Conference is trying to get African American turnout to 50% tommorrow

Who?  Also link?

The Alabama Democratic Conference is a historic organization that was originally founded to get Black Alabamians registered to vote and to become politically active. It has often acted as a sister party to the main Democratic Party down there (to some controversy) and fielded its own candidate against George Wallace.

[Former Kentuckian]

A speaker at the Moore rally just admitted to visiting a sex club filled with underage girls with Moore in tow. We are so beyond parody at this point.

I want to believe that enough Alabamians will see how ridiculous this sh!t is, but I can't until I see it.

Gianforte body slamming a reporter in Montana days before the election up there didn't impact that election and White Alabamians are taking Moore's alleged pedophilia even better than Montanans took the body slam, so I doubt it would have any effect.

[Former Kentuckian]

A speaker at the Moore rally just admitted to visiting a sex club filled with underage girls with Moore in tow. We are so beyond parody at this point.

I want to believe that enough Alabamians will see how ridiculous this sh!t is, but I can't until I see it.

Gianforte body slamming a reporter in Montana days before the election up there didn't impact that election and White Alabamians are taking Moore's alleged pedophilia even better than Montanans took the body slam, so I doubt it would have any effect.

That was one day before election day and btw, most of the ballots were already turned in before that incident.

You're correct. I was just wanting to make a dig about the lovely law-abiding candidates the GOP have been fielding

[Former Kentuckian]

What sites will you all be using to watch the results when they start trickling in?

[Former Kentuckian]

Mobile Finished up - Now waiting on 25 Precincts from Jefferson. NYT suspects will push Jones to 1%, but is it drops his margin, we could be in recount territory.

I'm really scared about a potential recount.

[Former Kentuckian]

Thank you all, honestly, for calming my nerves about a potential recount. I'm a pessimist and a worrier.

[Former Kentuckian]

Wew lads...black people saved the day:

This can't be said enough