who has done more harm to the cause they support?

[dead0man]

in my opinion, both groups have done amazing harm to their cause, but I'm not sure which is worse

[CumbrianLefty]

This poll should have a third option - "fervent pro-Israel apologists". If this place is anything to go by, the harm they do to their own cause is pretty high.

[dead0man]

This poll should have a third option - "fervent pro-Israel apologists". If this place is anything to go by, the harm they do to their own cause is pretty high.

maybe, how is Israel hurt by pro-Israel apologists?  Certainly not as obvious as the two I mentioned, at least not to me.

[Tintrlvr]

Nuclear protesters, definitely, because new nuclear would be a thing without them, whereas pro-Palestine groups are basically irrelevant to the current status of Palestine.

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The interesting thing about anti-nuclear movement is they essentially created the environmentalist movement and so are left as an increasingly odd artifact in a movement more defined by attacks on climate change.

Palestinian protests have both hurt and helped their cause. I would say the balance is towards helping, although if biden is defeated and it's clearly their fault, I might be of a mind to swing the other way.

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This poll should have a third option - "fervent pro-Israel apologists". If this place is anything to go by, the harm they do to their own cause is pretty high.

maybe, how is Israel hurt by pro-Israel apologists?  Certainly not as obvious as the two I mentioned, at least not to me.

They've gone down the 2016 SJW route.

[dead0man]

This poll should have a third option - "fervent pro-Israel apologists". If this place is anything to go by, the harm they do to their own cause is pretty high.

maybe, how is Israel hurt by pro-Israel apologists?  Certainly not as obvious as the two I mentioned, at least not to me.

They've gone down the 2016 SJW route.

I'm stiff confused.  I don't think very many of the fervent pro-Israel apologists are extremely over weight with green hair and daddy issues.  Is it the victim complex?  The overreaction to minor slights..."microaggressions"?  Are they all drawing the exact same cross armed anthropomorphist animal over and  over?