2008: Edwards/ Warner vs Giuliani/ Romney

[Sensei]

How would you say this election between Southern Democrats and Northern Republicans plays out?

Discuss with maps.

[War on Want]

The Democrats get much of the South, as John Edwards runs a Populist campaign that ends up appealing to Catholics, and Evangelicals all across the country. While many still end up voting for Giuliani, it was not enough. In Northeast the margin of victory for Edwards was thin and many pundits think that if it was not for Giuliani's foriegn policy, much of the Northeast would have gone for Giuliani strongly
The Westcost ended up being much like 2004, except with slight gains for the Republicans, and major gains for the Democrats in the Great Plains and the Southwest. States like Montana, South Dakota and Oklahoma were very close and even Texas only went for Giuliani by 8 percent.
Popular vote:
Edwards/Warner: 55%
Giuliani/Romney: 44%

[CPT MikeyMike]

Once they find out Edwards is the tax and spend nut that he really is, it's over. Warner might sway enough votes to win VA but NC is not going to vote for Edwards.

Giuliani: 331
Edwards: 207

[Reignman]

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NH, Maine, New Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland are all competitive, but ultimately go for Edwards. Edwards' great running mate choice and Giuliani's lame running mate choice are factors.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Edwards/Warner 296 EV
Giuliani/Romney 242 EV

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Edwards would win Kentucky for certain, against a liar like Giuliani.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Edwards/Warner 296 EV
Giuliani/Romney 242 EV

LOL@Giuliani winning WV.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

LOL@Giuliani winning WV.

And North Carolina's even sillier!

[War on Want]

LOL@Giuliani winning WV.

And North Carolina's even sillier!

I put him winning North Carolina easily.

[FerrisBueller86]

This is the weakest Republican ticket anyone could possible conceive of.  Giuliani/Romney would lose all 50 states, including Utah.  In fact, Giuliani/Romney would have trouble winning a single county, much less a single state.  Sioux County, Iowa (80%+ Republican) wouldn't go for this ticket.  This ticket wouldn't even win the 90%+ Bush counties in western Nebraska or southeastern Idaho.  Fortunately for the Republicans, the only this happens is if all the other Republican candidates get abducted by aliens.

Here's what Giuliani has to offer:
1.  Against the base on abortion, gay rights, and gun control: This would be a wet dream for a kooky right-wing third-party ticket.  In fact, this kooky right-wing third party ticket would outperform the Republican ticket.  In fact, this ticket would be the death of the Republican Party.
2.  A record of disrespect for the troops: When he was asked about the 380 tons of stolen explosives in Iraq, he BLAMED OUR TROOPS.  This would alienate everybody - all ideologies, all races, and all demographic groups.
3.  Possible skeletons in the closet: If there really are skeletons in Giuliani's closet (like Bernard Kerik), then this would be the final nail in the coffin of his presidential aspirations.

What would Romney add to the ticket?  NOTHING!  OK, he'd help slightly with getting the Mormon vote in Utah and Idaho, but that still wouldn't be enough to win either state.  He wouldn't add anything to Giuliani.  Romney was for abortion rights before he was against it and for gay rights before he was against it.  Then there's the fact that he's from Massachusetts, a lawless and corrupt state where married gay couples lynch heterosexuals, drive-thru abortions are performed at every street corner, and everyone has wild, orgasmic sex in the middle of the street.  So Romney will have to either praise his state (which means his party is flip-flopping) or badmouth his state (which means he's admitting that he was a bad governor).

I can't think of any weaker possible tickets for the Republicans.  OK, Paris Hilton-Nicole Richie would be one, but neither of them is in the presidential race.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

[Verily]

Some guesswork involved. I'm not sure how well Giuliani would hold up in the "Mississippi River stack". Edwards might be able to win Iowa through Arkansas.

West Virginia and Ohio are easy Democratic pick-ups in this scenario. Virginia is close but still Edwards by over 50% due to a combination of Warner, demographic trends, and Edwards' "southernness". North Carolina is also close with Easley campaigning hard for Edwards and Giuliani's social liberalism failing to hold many of the socially conservative, economically leftist state-level Democrats/national Republicans.

[Lincoln Republican]

Edwards proved to be a poor Vice Presidential nominee in 2004 and proves to be an even worse Presidential nominee in 2008.

The campaign shows him to be an empty suit, constantly carping about "two Americas."  His tobacco road rhetoric proves to be tiring and monotonous. 

Giuliani stresses his national security credentials, real or imagined, and contrasts his outstanding record of accomplishment as Mayor of New York City to Edwards's undistinguished record as a one term Senator.

Giuliani assures the Republican base of the conservative fiscal principles he holds, and how his social positions have moderated, while at the same time assuring moderates, independents, and crossover voters that he is their friend, and will stand by them.  He manages to pull this feat off using the considerable political skills he acquired as a top notch prosecutor and as Mayor, who had to bring disparate factions together in order to accomplish what had to be done.       

Romney proves to be a brilliant running mate, an outstanding campaigner, and a perfect conservative balance, real or contrived, to Giuliani's more moderate image.

Warner as well proves to be a good choice as a running mate, but is hampered by Edwards's underwhelming performance.

This election is not even close.

Giuliani/Romney                369
Edwards/Warner              169   
 

[AndrewTX]

Tough call. I'd see Romney pulling Giuliani down in the GE.

[HappyWarrior]

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NH, Maine, New Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland are all competitive, but ultimately go for Edwards. Edwards' great running mate choice and Giuliani's lame running mate choice are factors.

Maryland will never be competetive in an election.  We are one of the most diehard Democratic states in the union.  Unless someone who is liberal enough to give Eugene Debs a run for his money in a race to see who is more liberal, we will continue to vote Democrat.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

LOL@Giuliani winning WV.

And North Carolina's even sillier!

I know my election map of this scenario was s**t house so I'll do another one which will be more realistic.

Edwards/Warner 326 EV 52%
Giuliani/Romney   212 EV 48%