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IceSpear
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« on: December 12, 2013, 12:00:55 AM »


Gloating over a 1 point lead?
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 02:46:58 AM »


When Hillary is supposedly on her way to a 300+ EV victory? Yeah. And it's not really gloating; it's just meant to expose the idiotic idea that she is a sure winner. I'm in no way certain that the GOP will win in 2016.

If Christie is the nominee and emerges unscathed from the primaries, both two very dubious propositions, then the election would be a toss up, of course. On the other hand, Clinton is already presumptive nominee and leads every other Republican besides Christie. Surely you can see why people see her as the overwhelming favorite.
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IceSpear
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E: -6.19, S: -6.43

« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 04:12:13 PM »


When Hillary is supposedly on her way to a 300+ EV victory? Yeah. And it's not really gloating; it's just meant to expose the idiotic idea that she is a sure winner. I'm in no way certain that the GOP will win in 2016.

If Christie is the nominee and emerges unscathed from the primaries, both two very dubious propositions, then the election would be a toss up, of course. On the other hand, Clinton is already presumptive nominee and leads every other Republican besides Christie. Surely you can see why people see her as the overwhelming favorite.

We have no idea what events will occur over the course of the next three years, or how the campaign will unfold, etc.  I agree that Clinton is the overwhelming favorite to win the Democratic nomination, but it's way too early to talk about overwhelming favorites for the general election.  You guys seem way too confident in this theory that Clinton is likely to steamroll through the general election because the eventual GOP nominee will get beat up in the primaries.  We have no idea how the GOP primaries are going to play out yet.

It's incredibly early.  These early polls are fun in terms of watching the demographics, and looking at Clinton's relative strength in different states, but using them to gauge her absolute strength in the general election seems misguided.  Polls can't accurately forecast presidential elections three years out.  I don't think anything can forecast presidential elections three years out.  That's way too much lead time.

Yes, but winning the primary is half the battle. How can any Republican possibly have a better chance than her when it's completely up in the air who will even emerge as the nominee? Christie not only has to beat Hillary, but he also has to go through Paul, Cruz, Walker, etc. first before he even gets to her.
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