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« on: April 29, 2013, 01:03:37 PM »

If you got to change 3 things in the US constitution, what would you chose?

My bid:

1. Have the House of Representatives elected for four years at the same time as the President.

2. Use proportional representation to elect the House.

3. Elect the President directly using a run-off between the two candidates with the most votes if none of the candidates got 50% in the first round.
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 01:08:42 PM »

1. President elected by popular vote

2. House elected by proportional representation

3. Take out the born-in-the-US requirement for being President
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 01:13:51 PM »

1. I am Emperor of America.

2. Congress is dissolved.

3. Letters of marque for everyone!
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 01:22:04 PM »

1. Elect three Senators from each State, one every two years for a two-year term.

2. Make explicit that the Supreme Court can rule laws to be unconstitutional, but require a three-fifths majority for them to do so. (That would six justices with the current size of nine, but if the court's size was expanded to thirteen (one per circuit) then eight of thirteen would be needed instead of nine as would be the case with a two-thirds requirement.

3. Give DC representation in Congress as if it were a State.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 01:27:37 PM »

1. Second Amendment.  DUH!  Make it quite clear what that bad boy means, and certainly make it a bit more flexible to be regulated.

2. Freedom of religion.  We can tell dangerous cults to leave and don't let the door hit ya! 

3. Age restrictions against public office.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 01:34:56 PM »

1. The Presidential system would be replaced by a parliamentary one
2. The election of the House of Representatives through PR
3. The second amendment would be worded far less categorically.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 01:54:57 PM »

1. House elected by closed list PR.

2. House terms coincide with Presidential term.

3. Senate abolished.
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 01:57:47 PM »
« Edited: April 29, 2013, 02:00:17 PM by RogueBeaver »

1) No 22nd

2) Line-item veto

3) No natural-born POTUS requirement
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2013, 02:13:37 PM »

you really don't see the obvious implications of that? really?
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 02:19:22 PM »

What's with all the desire for PR for the House?  The size of the House would need to be considerably increased, well beyond a thousand, to have it work while keeping apportionment by States, and apportionment of the House by States is a minimal necessity for keeping our government a Federal one. For a country as large and diverse as ours is, a Federal system is a necessity, not merely a nicety.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 02:25:05 PM »

1. Parliamentary system
2. Voting by order preference the way Atlasia does it (pr sucks because it fragments)
3. States have no more rights vis a vis the Feds than municipalities do vis a vis the State that let them incorporate in the first instance (we are one nation now, and don't need the carryover from the Articles of Confederation anymore)
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 02:29:38 PM »

1. President elected by popular vote

3. Take out the born-in-the-US requirement for being President

and do this:

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 02:30:57 PM »

1. President elected by popular vote
2. 22nd amendment repealed
3. Gerrymander ban
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 02:44:25 PM »
« Edited: April 29, 2013, 04:24:32 PM by Emperor-Elect SJoyce »

1. Implement IRV for all offices.
2. Nat'l popular vote

and do this (except I fixed it):

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 03:01:47 PM »

1) Constitutional monarchy.

2) Westminster system

3) An amendment to create a national, non-partisan agency to do redistricting.
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 03:09:40 PM »

1. National popular vote
2. Add some clarity on the commerce claus
3. As SJoyce said, get rid of the first part of the Second amendment.
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 03:15:01 PM »

What's with all the desire for PR for the House?  The size of the House would need to be considerably increased, well beyond a thousand, to have it work while keeping apportionment by States, and apportionment of the House by States is a minimal necessity for keeping our government a Federal one. For a country as large and diverse as ours is, a Federal system is a necessity, not merely a nicety.

Why? The federal government could easily organize federal elections without affecting the power of the states in other areas.
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 04:41:49 PM »

1. Abolish the Senate

2. Swap the Presidential system for a parliamentary one with four-year terms and PR

3. Add a positive right to vote provision that leads to nationwide automatic voter registration and outlaws things like felony disenfranchisement
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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 04:56:45 PM »

There are maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany things I would change, but I guess this is the top three.

1. Add a Bill of Economic and Social Rights (inspired by Roosevelt's 1944 speech and by the ones that exist in the constitutions of most western countries), with Congress having full power to make these rights effective.

2. Proportional Representation in the House.

3. Alternative vote (or at least runoff vote) for all uni-nominal elections.


What's with all the desire for PR for the House?  The size of the House would need to be considerably increased, well beyond a thousand, to have it work while keeping apportionment by States, and apportionment of the House by States is a minimal necessity for keeping our government a Federal one. For a country as large and diverse as ours is, a Federal system is a necessity, not merely a nicety.

What the heck are you talking about? PR would work just fine with the House as it is now (even though I actually support its expansion). Right now the average State has 8-9 seats. This is more than the average Spanish constituency, which has 7, or the average French Department when PR was used, which was 6. With D'Hondt method, this number of seats can easily work consistent with 3, 4 or even 5 parties winning seats (considering the way the US is, you will never see complete political balkanization as in Italy, Israel or the Netherlands. Sure, this means that the 1-seat States would effectively keep using FPP, but it's not the big deal. States like Idaho and RI would be generally split 1-1 except in landslide (if a party's vote is over twice that of any other, it would win both seats), and States like Nebraska, NM or WV could be 2-1 or 1-1-1, depending on the fragmentation. But when you get to 4 seats or more, PR is a reality.
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2013, 05:02:38 PM »

1.  Modify 22nd amendment to allow a President to be elected up to three times.

2.  Modify requirement that the President be born an American to a 25-year-citizenship requirement.  

3.  Require that Justices on SCOTUS retire after 20 years (but I would continue to have them be unelected, and not up of any elections, reelections, or reconfirmations; once appointed, they can serve as much of the 20 years as they want, but cannot return once they step down.  That way, a previous record on SCOTUS cannot be used for or against them).  
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2013, 05:20:13 PM »

1. Abolish the Senate.
2. Expand the Bill of Rights to include economic/social rights.
3. Repeal the 2nd amendment.
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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2013, 05:20:44 PM »

1.) Unicameral parliamentarian system with figurehead President

2.) Abolition of the 2nd amendment

3.) National (and 1st world) voting standards.
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« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2013, 05:22:21 PM »

well since we're talking about a complete fantasy:

1. slowly dissolve the united states and its constitution in favor of new american nations. maybe set up my own kind of "free state" project with the help of others during all this.
2. overhaul the financial system: abolish the federal reserve, break up all the "too big to fail" banks, enforce some sort of full reserve banking system, repudiate a lot of the debt, etc.
3. establish a free trade zone for all former members of the former united states.
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2013, 05:26:06 PM »

3.) National (and 1st world) voting standards.

Oh, you're right about this. Scrap my #3 and put this instead.
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2013, 05:38:14 PM »

1. Add IRV.
2. Eliminate the natural born citizen requirement for President.
3. Increase the terms for Representatives to 4 years.
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