And people who decide to create a thread about it 
Non undue offence but theres no need to create this. BRTD, king of useless threads at least brought up a valid point for discussion and an ability to refute his view of it. Best to fight your ground in there.
Well, perhaps you would be more exacerbated if you had been spending the last two months combating soundbytes and misrepresentations with long elocutions the way I have been. How many times have I addressed this criticism, and its all for not because people who make every pretext of being smart rational people have already decided to hate the Catholic Church no matter how wrong their ideas about it are.
Welcome to debating religion - it doesn't matter if you've got facts, logic, and reason on your side, you're still wrong no matter how right you are.
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