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« on: July 06, 2015, 12:04:43 PM »

If you take conspiracy theories about Benghazi or Vince Foster seriously, you're a crazy Republican hack.  You're just embarrassing yourselves.
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2015, 09:03:40 AM »

If you take conspiracy theories about Benghazi or Vince Foster seriously, you're a crazy Republican hack.  You're just embarrassing yourselves.

In the end, the Republican nominee for President is going to have to oppose Hillary Clinton on the issues. There are a ton of skeletons in her closet, but the media and the Democratic Party will find excuses for the Clintons as they have for the last two decades. Hillary Clinton is unfit to lead.

But, in the end, this election is about the future of our economy and our security.

Hillary Clinton is running for Barack Obama's third term. We have the lowest labor participation rate since 1980, record low business start-up rates, massive underemployment, the worst economic recovery since the great depression, wages barely keeping pace with inflation, and a record national debt. That's the record Hillary Clinton will run on, in addition to her own record of opposing tax cuts and voting against funding our troops in a war she voted for.

Barack Obama is a great President, who won a majority of the vote, twice.  Republicans are not going to win by running on an economic populist message, if their solutions exclusively involve giving the rich even more of a leg up.

As far as Hillary goes, you've tried to create scandals for years.  They don't turn out to be anything.  Vince Foster is someone who committed suicide.  Benghazi was a terrorist attack, those happen under every President. 
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2015, 06:17:10 PM »

Dude, I'm not going to address your Republican talking points.  You're not making any sense, you're just piling up meaningless rhetoric.  Unite the country, bipartisanship, Wall-Street/Main street, bleh.

I know Democrats love to claim the Clinton scandals are all just made up by Republicans. In the case of Monica Lewinsky, they are correct. But, that doesn't excuse Whitewater or Chinagate, and it certainly doesn't excuse Benghazi.

What did Hillary Clinton do wrong with regards to Whitewater?  The official report of the Republican witch hunt didn't find any evidence of wrongdoing on her part or President Clinton.  That's a fact.

Same with Benghazi.

The Chinese campaign finance thing never amounted to anything.  Nobody certainly ever linked Hillary Clinton to it.  These are all facts.  You can't treat someone being accused of wrongdoing as tantamount to evidence that they did something wrong.  People sling mud in politics and the Clintons have always been targets. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2015, 09:13:13 PM »

OK.  Your opinions which sound just like Republican talking points are facts because you said so.  Sure.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2015, 10:22:04 PM »

Those are a bunch of news articles.  But, you can't just vomit out facts, you have to synthesize them into a coherent point which you have failed to do. 

Like, President Obama is not at fault for America's aging population or the general trend of wealth inequality.  And, I seem to remember something about the Republican party being against wealth redistribution and against immigration.  So, you're in effect saying, look at these disturbing trends, we need to exacerbate them!!!
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2015, 11:18:13 PM »

You are 100% correct that the President is not responsible for our aging population. So, what has he done to reform social security and medicare? Other than cutting medicare by $500 billion, which Republicans opposed by the way, he's done absolutely nothing and used scare tactics to stop Congressman Paul Ryan's proposed reforms from becoming law.

You mean that Obama cut $500 billion from a wasteful corporate welfare program called Medicare advantage.  And, then used that savings to increase prescription drug benefits for Medicare consumers and provide universal healthcare?  Oh, right. 

And, Obama opposed the voucher-program what wouldn't save any money, just turn Medicare into a corporate welfare program on the glide path to massive cuts when the subsidies don't cover basic insurance? 

Now, you have said that Republicans are against redistribution and immigration. What Republicans are against is class warfare. There is no question that income inequality has grown in recent years, in fact probably for a few decades. In my opinion, the way to create opportunity is not by bringing the rich down, it's by having rising incomes and more opportunities for everyone, redistribution simply doesn't work. But there is broad consensus between Republican and Democratic voters to stop corporate welfare, and even some of our elected officials in Washington agree we should close some or all tax loopholes and limit deductions. President Obama, on multiple occasions, said he supported lowering the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%. He never fought for it. He could have been the President who reformed our tax code to lower our tax rates while limiting deductions and closing loopholes, but he has failed to engage congress even on an issue where there is consensus.

Republicans control Congress.  Couldn't they, gasp, pass a bill and see if Obama signs it?
 
Finally, immigration. The vast majority of Republicans love legal immigration, myself included. However, a small number of Republicans fear immigration, legal or illegal. This is what helped Pat Buchanan win a few states in 1996; there are a few Republicans who try to play on people's fears. The majority of Republicans reject the bigoted attitudes of people like Rick Santorum, Donald Trump, and Ted Cruz. As far as illegal immigration is concerned, there are some in the party who believe that we should do whatever it takes to kick all the illegals out of the country, despite the fact that no one is going to deport 11 million people and that trying to do so would literally cost trillions. Others believe we should have a pathway to citizenship or legalized status. Personally, I am for a pathway to legalized status.

The point is, I think it's an over generalization to suggest that Republicans are anti-immigrant. I don't think you can categorize a group of people in such a manner. In fact, one person who was so strongly against immigration reform in 2007 was Senator Bernie Sanders.

Well, just the vast majority of Republicans who have torpedoed immigration reform every time we've tried in recent years. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2015, 08:19:57 AM »

Yeah, I'm not going to read that.
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