NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[Duke of York]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

this is why I hate Twitter. To many people get news solely from it with things taken completely out of context.

[SWE]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

Did you actually watch it, or are you going off of one tweet that was likely very selectively taken out of context?

She didn't even say this, OP admits he misquoted her a few tweets down in the thread

[US Politics Fanatic]

Will Zeldin win the jewish vote ?

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

[Calthrina950]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

[Calthrina950]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

[Calthrina950]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

[Calthrina950]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

Let me quote verbatim what she actually said (~0:17 in this clip):

"I don't know why that is so important to you." That was in response to his criticisms of her policies on crime. She didn't say what was initially attributed to her, but her actual comment isn't any better. At any rate, more argument is not going to produce a consensus on this.

[KaiserDave]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

Let me quote verbatim what she actually said (~0:17 in this clip):

"I don't know why that is so important to you." That was in response to his criticisms of her policies on crime. She didn't say what was initially attributed to her, but her actual comment isn't any better. At any rate, more argument is not going to produce a consensus on this.

I don't know, what's worse saying  "I don't know why locking up criminals is so important to you" or saying "I don't know why that is so important to you." in as a part of a larger sentence where it's unclear what she's even replying to. I keep watching that clip waiting for a big screw up or for Zeldin to pounce and it never happens.

[wbrocks67]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

Let me quote verbatim what she actually said (~0:17 in this clip):

"I don't know why that is so important to you." That was in response to his criticisms of her policies on crime. She didn't say what was initially attributed to her, but her actual comment isn't any better. At any rate, more argument is not going to produce a consensus on this.

You're being dishonest again. It wasn't about her "policies on crime" - it was on a *SPECIFIC* issue in terms of cash bail. Why can't you just admit you made a false pretense from a misleading tweet? You're just doubling down at this point.

[wbrocks67]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

Did you actually watch it, or are you going off of one tweet that was likely very selectively taken out of context?

I'm not watching the entire debate. I'm following it on Twitter, and the consensus seems to be that Zeldin is doing well. Mind you, this includes some "#Election Twitter" people who are staunch Democrats.

Hm, because I'm seeing the opposite. Only on Atlas does election denying in a blue state = good debate.

https://twitter.com/nickgourevitch/status/1585054977860333568

January 6th is not the only issue under consideration next month. I'm sorry, but it is not. If Democrats were running their campaigns solely on that issue, and that issue alone, they would be in a worse position now than they currently are. What do you think the voters in NYC are more concerned about? Issues directly impacting them? Or January 6th?

You're completely missing the point here. He made a total gaffe by not disavowing the 2020 election denial. That IS a big deal in a blue state like New York, especially with literal election deniers all over the ballot all over the country. Whether you like to believe it or not, it IS an issue. I never said it was the biggest one. But you claim that Zeldin is such a great recruit, and yet he's making gaffes that are unnecessary like this one. Do you think that was a good comment for him to make?

[Calthrina950]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

Errant nonsense.

Of course, you come into here and defend Hochul. As I said before, you think every Republican candidate is terrible and every Democratic candidate is excellent.

When someone posted the actual, real video, you accused them of being a hack for debunking what is fake news! You have been dishonest.

I'm done conversing on this. Done, absolutely done.

Not sure why you're being so adversarial. It's pretty cut and dry, someone shared a fake, absolutely fictitious quote, and I'm saying it was wrong to amplify it when you didn't even watch the debate. I've done that before, it's bad!

Let me quote verbatim what she actually said (~0:17 in this clip):

"I don't know why that is so important to you." That was in response to his criticisms of her policies on crime. She didn't say what was initially attributed to her, but her actual comment isn't any better. At any rate, more argument is not going to produce a consensus on this.

You're being dishonest again. It wasn't about her "policies on crime" - it was on a *SPECIFIC* issue in terms of cash bail. Why can't you just admit you made a false pretense from a misleading tweet? You're just doubling down at this point.

You've certainly been reminding me in recent weeks why I had you on ignore in the past. We agree on virtually nothing, and it's useless for me to constantly re-litigate arguments like these.

[Ferguson97]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

It's definitely easy to see, from her performance in this debate, why Hochul could very well be upset by Zeldin.

That quote is literally fabricated. You aren't even watching the debate this is so incredibly dishonest. You are not being honest, you are not being even handed, and its showing.

No, she didn't say that, but her actual comment wasn't that much better. But as I was saying in the Oz thread, people are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for this woman.

The actual comment was completely different! One has nothing to do with the other! Just admit your surface level knowledge on the debate (not even watching) led you to unknowingly share false information.

I'm not conceding on this one, especially since I wasn't the one who shared the tweet.

https://twitter.com/dril/status/134787490526658561?lang=en

[Orwell]

Will Zeldin win the jewish vote ?

No chance in hell, the Jewish vote is much more Dem-leaning on average than basically any ethnic or minority group outside of African-Americans.


    Jews are a part of the Democratic party's core base.

[US Politics Fanatic]

Will Zeldin win the jewish vote ?

No chance in hell, the Jewish vote is much more Dem-leaning on average than basically any ethnic or minority group outside of African-Americans.


    Jews are a part of the Democratic party's core base.

Alright. Just asking because he's jewish himself. I still think he will likely do better than Trump or even Romney among them. He'll flip Rockdale county, the most jewish county of the country percentage wise (30%) that only voted for Biden by four points.

[Bismarck]

Will Zeldin win the jewish vote ?

No chance in hell, the Jewish vote is much more Dem-leaning on average than basically any ethnic or minority group outside of African-Americans.


    Jews are a part of the Democratic party's core base.

You’re right although the Jewish vote in New York is less democrat than in most of the country because of the higher percentage of Orthodox Jews. Zeldin has made appealing to Orthodox Jews a key part of his coalition so he may do well although he certainly won’t win overall.

[Orwell]

Will Zeldin win the jewish vote ?

No chance in hell, the Jewish vote is much more Dem-leaning on average than basically any ethnic or minority group outside of African-Americans.


    Jews are a part of the Democratic party's core base.

You’re right although the Jewish vote in New York is less democrat than in most of the country because of the higher percentage of Orthodox Jews. Zeldin has made appealing to Orthodox Jews a key part of his coalition so he may do well although he certainly won’t win overall.

Yea, but overall just because of the sheer number of Jewish people in New York they're a major part of the Democratic base, IIRC non-Orthodox jews in New York skew a little bit more Democratic than elsewhere in the country too.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

I want to just crawl under a rock. We are so doomed politically it's not even funny

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

I want to just crawl under a rock. We are so doomed politically it's not even funny

That's not what she said.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

I want to just crawl under a rock. We are so doomed politically it's not even funny

That's not what she said.

And you think that matters? It will be in every republican ad, even if it is out of context.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

I want to just crawl under a rock. We are so doomed politically it's not even funny

That's not what she said.

And you think that matters? It will be in every republican ad, even if it is out of context.

You can't run an ad with something she didn't say. That quote isn't out of context, it's fabricated.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

WHAT
https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1585050957703831552?s=20&t=Rtbh94lCO...

I want to just crawl under a rock. We are so doomed politically it's not even funny

That's not what she said.

And you think that matters? It will be in every republican ad, even if it is out of context.

You can't run an ad with something she didn't say. That quote isn't out of context, it's fabricated.

Then where did it come from? Was it a spin or exaggeration on something she did say? I'm just confused