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The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow
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« on: October 04, 2017, 06:59:09 PM »

Bernie supporters will probably irrationally weep over the election of a "corporate Democrat" or "centrist" or something, even though she is neither - and I say this as someone who preferred him over Hillary last year (albeit narrowly, but still).
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The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2017, 11:26:47 AM »

    • The Intercept obtained a 2013 memo to Harris from prosecutors in the attorney general's office revealing they found evidence of widespread misconduct at OneWest Bank and urging her to conduct a full investigation - Harris never did. Yet, in 2016 she was the only Democratic Senate candidate to receive a donation from Steven Mnuchin, OneWest's former CEO.

    Honestly, this in itself makes her DOA. Her primary opponents would be stupid not to hit her hard with that.
    If I remember correctly, it was a remarkably small donation, something like $2000 or something.[/list]
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    The Undefeatable Debbie Stabenow
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    « Reply #2 on: October 07, 2017, 11:35:05 AM »

    Bernie supporters will probably irrationally weep over the election of a "corporate Democrat" or "centrist" or something, even though she is neither - and I say this as someone who preferred him over Hillary last year (albeit narrowly, but still).

    Yeah, except that she is...

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    Harris also...

    • Championed a state-wide anti-truancy law that she implemented in San Francisco that threatened parents of chronically truant children with $2,000 fines and a year in jail.
    • Harris's actions in the Larsen case, which involved a man formerly convicted of burglary had been allegedly seen by police throwing a knife under a car, which caused him to be sentenced to 27 years in prison under the 3 strikes law supported by Harris. Police had wrongfully targeted Larsen, a witness reported that Larsen wasn't the one who threw the knife, and Larsen's later disbarred lawyer never bothered to investigate or present a witness on trial. After 11 years, the conviction was overturned, but Harris appealed that decision on the basis of a technically, causing him, an innocent man, to remain in prison for 2 more years. After 14 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, he was back in court 5 months after release because Harris challenged his release.
    • Harris laughed at pot legalization as California's Attorney General in 2014. Again, her Republican opponent ran to her left on the issue.
    • As District Attorney, refused to provide the names of police officers whose testimonies led to convictions despite the officers' arrest records and histories of misconduct. As California's Attorney General, she opposed the statewide use of police body cameras and a bill that'd require her office to investigate fatal police shootings.
    • Harris attempted to dismiss a suit by inmates against the state's use of solitary confinement, with her office insisting the practice was not used. The result was a landmark settlement for the inmates.
    • Harris attempted to block a transgender inmate's request for gender reassignment surgery.
    • This year, Harris joined Rand Paul to write a NYT's editorial opposing the practice of using bail, arguing it unfairly harmed low income people. But in just June 2016 she was defending its constitutionality in court.
    • Harris was a proponent and sponsor of a bill that'd allow California prosecutors to seize profits before charges were filed (which is civil asset forfeiture).
    • Harris defended the barring of a Sikh man from working as a prison guard due to his religiously-mandated beard supposedly interfering with his ability to wear a gas mask. Yet, California allows guards to have beards for certain medical reasons.
    • Harris's well staffed and funded foreclosure fraud Mortgage Fraud Strike Force prosecuted just 10 cases in 3 years, which was fewer prosecutions of foreclosure fraud cases than any other state in America, filed fewer lawsuits than many smaller states with fewer victims, and even less than some counties, despite California leading the nation in the number of complaints since 2010.
    • The Intercept obtained a 2013 memo to Harris from prosecutors in the attorney general's office revealing they found evidence of widespread misconduct at OneWest Bank and urging her to conduct a full investigation - Harris never did. Yet, in 2016 she was the only Democratic Senate candidate to receive a donation from Steven Mnuchin, OneWest's former CEO.

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    She absolutely is problematic in my eyes on certain issues. I didn't like her not being strong on the death penalty (although it's notable that she did famously refuse to seek the death penalty for someone who killed a cop, despite public outcry, which to me is endearing), or her stance on the three strikes laws. But she supports single payer, she did stand up strongly for LGBT rights (ex. the example you gave), she did have several positive criminal justice reforms (absolutely some negative ones as well, but also things like her "Back on Track" program which overall had great success) and did do good work doing the housing crisis. She also called out for-profit colleges for misleading students and help publicize data on misconduct by police officers and in-custody deaths (although yes, she did not endorse statewide use of body cameras).

    Is she perfect? Of course not. Is she Joe Manchin or Steve Mnuchin? Definitely not.
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