Path to a popular vote victory for the Republicans in 2024

[Del Tachi]

Republicans supposed "disadvantage" in the popular vote is oversold.  Any plausible Republican nominee *not named Donald Trump would have won the popular vote against Hillary Clinton in 2016, and said Republican would have probably been reelected (with a popular vote mandate) in 2020.

[Del Tachi]

Republicans supposed "disadvantage" in the popular vote is oversold.  Any plausible Republican nominee *not named Donald Trump would have won the popular vote against Hillary Clinton in 2016, and said Republican would have probably been reelected (with a popular vote mandate) in 2020.

LOL no.

The GOP has only won the popular vote once in the past 30 years. That one time in 2004 was mainly due to the rally-around-the-flag effect and incumbency advantage for Bush 43.

If the GOP nominee in 2016 had been someone other than Donald Trump, we'd be talking about the GOP winning the popular vote thrice in the past 30 years instead of only once (to the Democrats' five, three of which they won with less than 50%.)

Nothing you said in your post even pretends to argue with this assessment, you're just repeating a tired talking point about how electorally "lame" the GOP is, lmao

[Del Tachi]

Republicans supposed "disadvantage" in the popular vote is oversold.  Any plausible Republican nominee *not named Donald Trump would have won the popular vote against Hillary Clinton in 2016, and said Republican would have probably been reelected (with a popular vote mandate) in 2020.

LOL no.

The GOP has only won the popular vote once in the past 30 years. That one time in 2004 was mainly due to the rally-around-the-flag effect and incumbency advantage for Bush 43.

If the GOP nominee in 2016 had been someone other than Donald Trump, we'd be talking about the GOP winning the popular vote thrice in the past 30 years instead of only once (to the Democrats' five, three of which they won with less than 50%.)

Nothing you said in your post even pretends to argue with this assessment, you're just repeating a tired talking point about how electorally "lame" the GOP is, lmao

You have no evidence to prove your first claim. Thus, it is null & void.

And you have no “evidence” that the GOP starts out with a popular vote disadvantage in 2024.  So your claim is null and void too, I guess lol

[Del Tachi]

Republicans supposed "disadvantage" in the popular vote is oversold.  Any plausible Republican nominee *not named Donald Trump would have won the popular vote against Hillary Clinton in 2016, and said Republican would have probably been reelected (with a popular vote mandate) in 2020.

Maybe so but the problem here is that modern day Republican primary voters generally don't elect competent nominees.  Until and unless the GOP electorate starts supporting candidates based on honorable policy, integrity, morality and not simply how loudly they can run their mouths, your party will NEVER win a national popular vote.  If the GOP electorate continues to support the most racist and vile of their candidates, your party will NEVER win a national popular vote.

lolwut?  The most recent GOP nominees before Trump were Mitt Romney and John McCain, who (if you listened to a lot of red avatars on this Forum) are practically regarded as the modern-day incarnations of Abraham Lincoln or something, lol

There is no reason Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Tim Scott or Tom Cotton couldn't win the national popular vote in 2024.

[Del Tachi]

There is no reason Ron DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Josh Hawley, Ted Cruz, Tim Scott or Tom Cotton couldn't win the national popular vote in 2024.

Amazingly heterogeneous group of candidates here. Pretty much all they have in common is being youngish and more conventionally articulate than Trump. De Santis and Scott in particular are at almost opposite ends of the "Trumpiness" spectrum ideologically and stylistically once you price in the fact that the entire mainstream of the Republican Party is Trumpier-than-not. De Santis would be in for a rude awakening if he tried to run the sort of campaign that Scott might run, and vice versa.

yeah, that's the point.  Losing the popular vote isn't a GOP problem, it's a Trump problem.  There's a diverse set of Republican candidates who could win a national mandate in 2024.