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« Reply #175 on: March 02, 2017, 11:57:44 AM »

If Manchin is saying Sessions should resign, this has legs.
This story does have legs but the reason for that is nothing to do with what Manchin said. The reason is that some time ago the NeverTrumpers and the Democrats decided that they could not tolerate someone from outside the liberal establishment being President and so they're wanting to impeach Trump. Of course much as they'd like to they can't impeach him on grounds of "we don't like his policies" so they had to think of something else. They came up with "Russia hacked the election at the behest of Trump".

They're now churning out every bit of spin, out of context nothing burgers, innuendo and outright bullsh**t in support of this fake narrative and fake news liberal establishment media outlets like the Washington Post are eagerly promoting this nonsense.
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« Reply #176 on: March 02, 2017, 12:01:54 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2017, 12:03:33 PM by TD »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
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« Reply #177 on: March 02, 2017, 12:13:24 PM »

the whole administration is owned by the kremlin to some amount.

the crazy thing is that tillerson seems to be one of the more professional actors.
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« Reply #178 on: March 02, 2017, 12:16:52 PM »

Trump himself seems to have some memory problems re: who he's talked to in Russia:

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/837141504451837952
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« Reply #179 on: March 02, 2017, 12:18:02 PM »

trump himself is like al capone.... he is immrortal.

his friends on the other hand...
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« Reply #180 on: March 02, 2017, 12:18:48 PM »

trump himself is like al capone.... he is immrortal.

his friends on the other hand...

Capone fell on tax evasion charges. Tongue
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« Reply #181 on: March 02, 2017, 12:18:54 PM »

I'm just wondering, had Hillary won and then a Russian scandal such as this emerged about her and her campaign and her post-election administration, how would Republicans feel about and how would they react? Because I can tell you, as a Hillary voter, I would be livid, and could no longer support her or her administration.

This is not just normal politics anymore. Just because someone has an R or a D next to their name doesn't make them more or less guilty of any wrongdoing. One side is clearly in the wrong and there is no way to spin it--even trying to is outright dangerous, unpatriotic, and borderline treasonous.
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« Reply #182 on: March 02, 2017, 12:20:22 PM »

I'm just wondering, had Hillary won and then a Russian scandal such as this emerged about her and her campaign and her post-election administration, how would Republicans feel about and how would they react? Because I can tell you, as a Hillary voter, I would be livid, and could no longer support her or her administration.

This is not just normal politics anymore. Just because someone has an R or a D next to their name doesn't make them more or less guilty of any wrongdoing. One side is clearly in the wrong and there is no way to spin it--even trying to is outright dangerous, unpatriotic, and borderline treasonous.
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« Reply #183 on: March 02, 2017, 12:21:08 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics
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« Reply #184 on: March 02, 2017, 12:24:36 PM »

and their allies in the fake news media

i too get all my news from "reagan battalion", fpart of the NWO.
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« Reply #185 on: March 02, 2017, 12:25:28 PM »

I'm just wondering, had Hillary won and then a Russian scandal such as this emerged about her and her campaign and her post-election administration, how would Republicans feel about and how would they react? Because I can tell you, as a Hillary voter, I would be livid, and could no longer support her or her administration.

This is not just normal politics anymore. Just because someone has an R or a D next to their name doesn't make them more or less guilty of any wrongdoing. One side is clearly in the wrong and there is no way to spin it--even trying to is outright dangerous, unpatriotic, and borderline treasonous.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ
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« Reply #186 on: March 02, 2017, 12:26:26 PM »

I'm just wondering, had Hillary won and then a Russian scandal such as this emerged about her and her campaign and her post-election administration, how would Republicans feel about and how would they react? Because I can tell you, as a Hillary voter, I would be livid, and could no longer support her or her administration.

This is not just normal politics anymore. Just because someone has an R or a D next to their name doesn't make them more or less guilty of any wrongdoing. One side is clearly in the wrong and there is no way to spin it--even trying to is outright dangerous, unpatriotic, and borderline treasonous.

Were this Hillary, the Republicans would have impeached 3/4 of her Cabinet before the word 'I didn't -" escaped her lips. The Republicans are shaking in their boots and being cowards about the Russian connection. It's going to be great fun to see this explode over the next 2 years. At some point, they'll jettison Trump and install Pence to deal with the damage, I think.

There are a TON of issues Trump is vulnerable on and should be fully investigated on. There's the mob (also Russian in flavor), there's his business dealings, there's the Manafort angle, there's the hidden tax returns (which almost assuredly shows some nefarious things), and so on and so on.
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« Reply #187 on: March 02, 2017, 12:27:20 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics

How can you say it's just politics?

There is a clear Russian connection with Trump's team and it has to be investigated. Just because you say it doesn't exist does not make it so. There is evidence to back these allegations; there isn't evidence (yet) to prove their innocence.
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« Reply #188 on: March 02, 2017, 12:29:14 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics

How can you say it's just politics?

There is a clear Russian connection with Trump's team and it has to be investigated. Just because you say it doesn't exist does not make it so. There is evidence to back these allegations; there isn't evidence (yet) to prove their innocence.

Well, we don't want an investigation. We already had an election to settle this matter.
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« Reply #189 on: March 02, 2017, 12:30:46 PM »

and their allies in the fake news media

i too get all my news from "reagan battalion", fpart of the NWO.

Ah, The Reagan Battalion, that legendary bastion of progressive liberalism.

They are actually a pretty solid Twitter presence, in all seriousness
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« Reply #190 on: March 02, 2017, 12:30:52 PM »

if - after obama bashed romney for his russia policy - a similar paper trail would have been unearthed, i would have been shocked.

as i said several times, i would apologize to romney today...2013 changed everything.
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« Reply #191 on: March 02, 2017, 12:31:12 PM »

There was an election to settle the president's Russian ties and potential collaboration? When did I miss that?
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« Reply #192 on: March 02, 2017, 12:31:42 PM »

I'm just wondering, had Hillary won and then a Russian scandal such as this emerged about her and her campaign and her post-election administration, how would Republicans feel about and how would they react? Because I can tell you, as a Hillary voter, I would be livid, and could no longer support her or her administration.

This is not just normal politics anymore. Just because someone has an R or a D next to their name doesn't make them more or less guilty of any wrongdoing. One side is clearly in the wrong and there is no way to spin it--even trying to is outright dangerous, unpatriotic, and borderline treasonous.
These kind of bullsh**t stories don't just 'emerge'. Their 'emergence' is scripted and planned and nothing to do with the truth of the matter.

Just to illustrate that this isn't a party political point lets look at the example of Dilma's impeachment in Brazil. I'm no fan of Dilma and I'm not sorry she was kicked out. She's a socialist and socialism is a menace. However I don't believe for a second that she was impeached because those paragons of virtue the Brazilian Congress were persuaded by the evidence that the charges against her were true and merited removal from office. That was just the pretext. The truth has nothing to do with it, its just politics.
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« Reply #193 on: March 02, 2017, 12:31:58 PM »

There was an election to settle the president's Russian ties and potential collaboration? When did I miss that?

When Hillary called him a puppet and the real Americans said WHO CARE
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« Reply #194 on: March 02, 2017, 12:32:47 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics

How can you say it's just politics?

There is a clear Russian connection with Trump's team and it has to be investigated. Just because you say it doesn't exist does not make it so. There is evidence to back these allegations; there isn't evidence (yet) to prove their innocence.

-What evidence? I didn't see you complaining about the Israeli connection with Romney's team.
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« Reply #195 on: March 02, 2017, 12:32:55 PM »


Well, we don't want an investigation. We already had an election to settle this matter.

that's the typical BS campaigns are usually spreading.

vote for a candidate = support for everything this candidate stood for.

if hillary would have won the election (she practically has), that wouldn't mean people would approve of her email handling.
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« Reply #196 on: March 02, 2017, 12:34:47 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics

How can you say it's just politics?

There is a clear Russian connection with Trump's team and it has to be investigated. Just because you say it doesn't exist does not make it so. There is evidence to back these allegations; there isn't evidence (yet) to prove their innocence.

Well, we don't want an investigation. We already had an election to settle this matter.

An election in which Moscow interfered with and deliberately aided one side over the other? Potentially with the collaboration of the winning side? Hmm. What's that word I'm thinking of? Oh yes, it's called collusion, treason, and a lot of other things. All of which gets a President impeached, thrown out of office, and many other things.

Don't worry. Your home boy will be removed from office by 2019 and you can cry with Pepe about the unfair liberal media and the left wing conspiracies. This is going to take his Presidency apart brick by brick. First Flynn went down, and believe me, that was only the first domino. There will be other resignations and a nice fat trail leading to the President.

The weakening of Donald Trump is already in progress and it's amazing to watch. His legitimacy is slowly being ripped away and soon enough, 50% of the country will believe that he has no moral authority as President. It will take a while to get a bunch of the remainder on board, but oh yeah, we're getting there.
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« Reply #197 on: March 02, 2017, 12:35:10 PM »


Well, we don't want an investigation. We already had an election to settle this matter.

that's the typical BS campaigns are usually spreading.

vote for a candidate = support for everything this candidate stood for.

if hillary would have won the election (she practically has), that wouldn't mean people would approve of her email handling.

No one cares about the emails. They don't matter one bit. People were just using it as an excuse to be angry with a politician who echoed a different worldview.
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« Reply #198 on: March 02, 2017, 12:36:46 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics

How can you say it's just politics?

There is a clear Russian connection with Trump's team and it has to be investigated. Just because you say it doesn't exist does not make it so. There is evidence to back these allegations; there isn't evidence (yet) to prove their innocence.

-What evidence? I didn't see you complaining about the Israeli connection with Romney's team.

I didn't vote for Romney, and Romney didn't become president. Also, I don't remember ever talking to you at all about Romney. So what's your point?

Quit being blind and stop ignoring the information that's out there about Russian ties with the president.
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« Reply #199 on: March 02, 2017, 12:38:44 PM »

The honeymoon lasted less than 24 hours. The Administration is an embarrassment, and we will not be safe from Russian infiltration/blackmail until every member of the Trump Administration is gone.

I am fairly sure that if half of the suspicions about Russia are true, half of the Trump Administration's top staffers and officials will end up (a) squealing on each other (b) fleeing the wreckage of the Administration (c) seeking asylum in Russia.

Good on the Congressional Republicans asking Sessions to recuse out of fear for their political hides.
This has absolutely zero to do with truth and everything to do with politics. Trump's political opponents and their allies in the fake news media have their prewritten impeachment story about 'russia owns Trump, Russia hacked the elections'.

There will be literally zero connection between whether or not this story is true at all and whether or not Trump is impeached on the basis of it. Its all to do with politics

How can you say it's just politics?

There is a clear Russian connection with Trump's team and it has to be investigated. Just because you say it doesn't exist does not make it so. There is evidence to back these allegations; there isn't evidence (yet) to prove their innocence.
There's sweet Fanny Adams to back up these allegations, just a few nothingburgers strung together with an elaborate web of innuendo. This has nothing to do with the Russians and everything to do with Democrats and NeverTrump Republicans getting together and churning out this bullsh**t because they don't like the election result and are looking for a pretext to overturn it.
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