Hillary Clinton email megathread

[Landslide Lyndon]

If it is found that she handled classified e-mail on her dot-com server (as appears to be unavoidable to me), she will surely face charges for violating Federal law.  I think she should end her campaign now and focus her energy on defending herself.  Also, she could provide a credible Democrat with time to organize an effective campaign.

You forgot to mention how she is about to get indicted for BENGHAZI!!!

[Landslide Lyndon]

This is starting to remind me of the countless "Is Obama DOOMED?" threads from 2008.

Who did Obama beat again to secure the Dem nomination?

And that's relevant exactly how?

[Landslide Lyndon]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/upshot/is-hillary-clinton-really-in-danger-of-losing-the-primary.html?rref=upshot&smid=tw-upshotnyt&_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

Mrs. Clinton’s advantage among the majority of Democratic voters is underpinned by just about all of the forces that help shape public opinion and determine the outcome of primary elections. Her policy views are smack-dab in the middle of the Democratic electorate, denying Mr. Sanders much room to challenge her on the left. She has won the so-called invisible primary, the behind-the-scenes competition for elite support that helps decide the nomination. She has more endorsements and cash than just about any candidate in American history.

Her commanding advantage among party elites has not been shaken by the concerns about her email account. Just ask Joe Biden.

The possibility that Mr. Biden might run for president has led many to imagine that Mrs. Clinton’s sagging support has Democrats on the verge of drafting him into the race. But the reaction from Democratic elites to a possible Biden run has been tepid at best. Major Democratic figures have publicly argued against his candidacy. My colleagues Carl Hulse and Jason Horowitz reported that the skepticism even extends to Mr. Biden’s friends and many Obama 2008 supporters — exactly the sort of people who ought to be most receptive to his candidacy.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Considering that Republicans have been extremely prone to crying wolf over anything that Democrats do during this administration, it isn't hard to understand why many people don't think there is anything to this story.

Remember the good ol' times when Solyndra would be the undoing of Obama?
Or when Benghazi disqualified Hillary from ever becoming president?
Fun times.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The degree to which some Democrats go "there's no story here!" based on pure partisanship is distressing. Clinton was a Cabinet official and this is an offense any anonymous mid-level bureaucrat would be fired for. The degree to which rules everyone else has to follow get regularly flouted by the Clintons is appalling and I hope this is finally the story that nails these vipers.

I don't know if there's no story but there's no likely effect on the election. This won't keep her form being nominated or, come the general election, rank high on the list of voters' concerns. As others here are saying, this fits the pattern of the GOP outrage machine pouncing on what they think will be a politically fatal scandal that ends up not mattering.

It sort of depends on how the facts evolve doesn't it? Anyway, Hillary has taken a hit in the polls, and certainly here on this Forum, at least for the moment. And when two thirds of the independent voters say they don't trust her (so said a Fox News poll of yesterday), that's a problem. Those voters are the least likely to return to base as it were, because they aren't part of a base.

Yeah, just like working class whites would never vote for Obama after the Wright saga.

Oh wait...

[Landslide Lyndon]

You'll notice the policies were published first in 2013, when the State Department's head was still Clinton.

Nope.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Hillary is in deep, deep trouble. Thus the Biden meeting with Warren. It's rather unbelievable, but I put the odds at close to 50-50 now that Hillary will drop out. That is because the odds must be approaching that, that at some point she will be indicted, and that her lawyers are going to begin telling her that.

Hillary's supporters must be sweating bullets after Torie's prediction. He is after all well known for his objective and felicitous analysis.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=179457.0

[Landslide Lyndon]

Hillary is in deep, deep trouble. Thus the Biden meeting with Warren. It's rather unbelievable, but I put the odds at close to 50-50 now that Hillary will drop out. That is because the odds must be approaching that, that at some point she will be indicted, and that her lawyers are going to begin telling her that.

Hillary's supporters must be sweating bullets after Torie's prediction. He is after all well known for his objective and felicitous analysis.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=179457.0

How many times have you linked that post?

None?

Do you think Hillary is in any legal trouble px? Instead of putting folks down, why don't you enter into the brave new world, of actually offering something up that is new and interesting out of your mind? Just a suggestion.

I don't know. But here is an interesting perspective.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/08/21/classification-follies/?module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs&region=Body

Congrats on using the word "felicitous." Grand word, isn't it?

Yes it is.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Good news for John McCain!

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/08/24/clinton-email-scandal-falls-state-dept-policy-private-email.html

The Republican Hillary Clinton email scandal is falling apart as the State Department confirmed that there was no policy against Clinton using private email.

On CNN’s New Day, State Department spokesman John Kirby said, “We have said in the past, Chris that there was no policy prohibiting the use of a private email account here at the State Department, and that is still a fact. Now, obviously, we have policies in place now that highly discourage that, and you are supposed to use your government account so that there is a constant, permanent record of it, but at the time she was not violating policy….I can tell you that there was no prohibition for her use of this, and we’ve since changed the policy to discourage that greatly, and in fact, the policy is that you have to use your government account for business.”

Kirby added that he didn’t believe that the policy changed while she was Secretary of State, which means that Hillary Clinton was doing nothing wrong when she used private email.

[Landslide Lyndon]

The State Department defending her will probably go over as well as Christie's hand-picked investigators clearing him of wrongdoing in Bridgegate.

I'm sure Darrell Issa and Trey Gowdy will conduct a more impartial investigation.

[Landslide Lyndon]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/042f508d2f5a4c9e806b9900e0fc7c77/so-far-legal-experts-see-no-criminal-trouble-clinton

Experts in government secrecy law see almost no possibility of criminal action against Hillary Clinton or her top aides in connection with now-classified information sent over unsecure email while she was secretary of state, based on the public evidence thus far.

Some Republicans, including leading GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, have called Clinton's actions criminal and compared her situation to that of David Petraeus, the former CIA director who was prosecuted after giving top secret information to his paramour. Others have cited the case of another past CIA chief, John Deutch, who took highly classified material home.

But in both of those cases, no one disputed that the information was highly classified and in many cases top secret. Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor; Deutch was pardoned by President Bill Clinton.

By contrast, there is no evidence of emails stored in Hillary Clinton's private server bearing classified markings. State Department officials say they don't believe that emails she sent or received included material classified at the time. And even if other government officials dispute that assertion, it is extremely difficult to prove anyone knowingly mishandled secrets.

"How can you be on notice if there are no markings?" said Leslie McAdoo, a lawyer who frequently handles security-clearance cases.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I read about it. The guy is invoking the fifth because Trey Gowdy and the other Republicans refused his request to testify publicly.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I read about it. The guy is invoking the fifth because Trey Gowdy and the other Republicans refused his request to testify publicly.

LOL! All the people hear about it is that he took the fifth. That sounds like Godfather 2.

Yeah, we know you're a hack, no need to remind us constantly.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I read about it. The guy is invoking the fifth because Trey Gowdy and the other Republicans refused his request to testify publicly.

LOL! All the people hear about it is that he took the fifth. That sounds like Godfather 2.

Yeah, we know you're a hack, no need to remind us constantly.

No, you are a hack and you have always been one. Proof: you are unable to understand why Hillary's numbers are dropping and you are comparing the email scandal to not tipping the waitress.

Proof you're a moron: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=2716;sa=showPosts

[Landslide Lyndon]

President Obama says this e-mail scandal is really not that big of a deal from a security standpoint:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/obama-clinton-emails-security-60-minutes-214656

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Yeah when her favorability ratings started going to s**t.

Hillary only thinks voting for the Iraq war was a mistake because it prevented her from becoming President.

True. Hillary wouldn't put relish on a hot dog without first consulting a focus group.

The far right and the far left finally agreeing on something.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Check out her guffaws.  http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/257214-clinton-cracks-up-over-question-about-fbi-investigation-into-email

What is she conveying?

Is she telling us this is so silly; a right-wing extremist crusade?

Is she asking him to come up with an original question?

Is she laughing because she doesn't want to cry in public as she is very afraid that she is heading to jail?

Other possibilities are too numerous to mention.

She is losing it.

Stay classy [deleted].

You see any irony at all in your post, px?

No.