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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2016, 01:58:53 PM »

In the modern era, there is an undeniable correlation between our state's troubles and increased Democratic control.  Make of that what you will, red avatars.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2016, 09:29:15 AM »

Its the GOP sequester, in the House, that's taking money out of Health Care and other social programs, that Ryan, who was Romney's Veep has kept, and chocking off money for states.

Hopefully, that will change in 2016. With a new Senate that follows a better budget.
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2016, 01:19:09 PM »

Well, the impasse is making itself felt in state universities.  The one I work at is not only taking back funds already reserved for its colleges and borrowing money from its sister-campus to cover operating expenses.  Its civil service employees are often having to hold off on physician appointments because doctors are beginning to refuse service to insurance plans that won't pay out immediately.  One state school may have to close its doors by March 1 and my institution along with another institution in the area have a very uncertain future after July 1.  At the moment, the governor's CoS just writes emails chastising our provosts and chancellors and boards for not raising more of their own money when we're down to between 20%-25% of our budget from state funds to begin with.  On top of it, even after a budget is passed, it takes several months for state appropriations to find their way into school accounts.  Not really wild, therefore, about the idea of delaying till the summer and a repeat of last year or even worse, till the next election.  Madigan and Rauner need to get in a room and work out a deal, like adults who do what their jobs are, namely to pass a state budget.  But they're not doing it, because there really isn't much pressure on them or incentive for them to do so right now.

Toying with ideas about a higher-ed march on Springfield.  it's not like it would be similar to teachers'  strikes in recent years or anything--we wouldn't be striking, we'd be asking legislators and the governor  to do their jobs.  I'm not the protesting type at all, but this is absurd. 

Illinois ticks me off.
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2016, 12:06:43 AM »

Its the GOP sequester, in the House, that's taking money out of Health Care and other social programs, that Ryan, who was Romney's Veep has kept, and chocking off money for states.

Hopefully, that will change in 2016. With a new Senate that follows a better budget.

The sequester cuts aren't in place anymore. The Congressional Dems all mostly voted for the spending bills that were passed before Christmas that were signed into law by a Dem President!

Better Budget? The Dems never passed a budget in 2010 when they controlled every branch of the Federal Government. The last Republican Budget jacked spending up by 80 billion dollars!

Besides, Illinois is responsible for paying into their pensions not the US Congress.
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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2016, 12:09:41 AM »

George Ryan started boworring from pensions in the first place. But, most of the Blago years weren't fruitful, and Quinn got in, there was this mass debt from his administration. We got an AG that is waiting to right time to run, but if it is anybody but Quinn Dems have a good chance in 2018.

Dems arent gonna go for term limits that take their own power away from them.
True the term limits are a bad bargaining chip that Rauner threw at Illinois Dems.
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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2016, 12:13:07 AM »

This is what happens when you elect a Republican governor and a super majority Democratic legislature.

I think Hogan and Baker will do quite well, though. The sooner IL can get rid of this hack, the better.
Hogan and Baker are governors of states that function unlike Illinois. They had a much better chance before they even did anything as governor where as Raurner was screwed the instant he was elected.
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2016, 01:40:12 AM »

Rauner isnt gonna get back in, because term limits wont happen. Voters wanted it on ballot in 2014, but they thought they were getting clean govt, it helped only Rauner's politically. Not what Cook county voters wanted.
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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2016, 06:56:47 PM »

In the modern era, there is an undeniable correlation between our state's troubles and increased Democratic control.  Make of that what you will, red avatars.

Yes, our Republican governors have been so functional. The only one that actually has been was Jim Edgar, and he has spoken out against Rauner's style of governance.
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« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2016, 07:30:40 PM »

In the modern era, there is an undeniable correlation between our state's troubles and increased Democratic control.  Make of that what you will, red avatars.

Yes, our Republican governors have been so functional. The only one that actually has been was Jim Edgar, and he has spoken out against Rauner's style of governance.

Yeah, the Democratic legislatures of recent times have been so eager to cooperate for the betterment of the state!
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2016, 04:31:03 PM »

In the modern era, there is an undeniable correlation between our state's troubles and increased Democratic control.  Make of that what you will, red avatars.

Yes, our Republican governors have been so functional. The only one that actually has been was Jim Edgar, and he has spoken out against Rauner's style of governance.
Edgar thinks Rauner is too partisan?
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2016, 05:37:18 PM »

^ Edgar said that the state government under Rauner is the worst he's ever seen it.
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2016, 11:16:17 AM »


Edgar was part of the reason Illinois is in this mess in the first place with his pension ramp and borrowing from designated funds. He has absolutely no room to talk.
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2016, 05:21:04 AM »

Edgar was lucky enough to be Gov when federal govt was running surpluses. He cut General Assistance. Welfare isnt General Assistance, and Schools are run by local govt, not by the state.
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