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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2010, 08:24:34 PM »

Badger, I think once per month is a fine compromise that will be accepted by the authors of this bill; namely my Veep and SoEA.  You have suggested bi-monthly, but you also say that you intend to exceed that minimum.  If you're going to do better than every two months anyways, what is the harm of writing it into the bill?

Let's please not forget Kal's equally important suggestion that a monthly foreign policy event may be a continuation or update of an event rather than a new storyline altogether. I strongly feel that needs to be addressed in the legislation as well.

I'm still not a fan of mandating GM activity for exactly the reasons given by Purple State, the Patron Saint of Game Moderators. Grin However, with the expansion of mandated time frames to at least a month, and the caveat Kal proposed, well, I can live with that.
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2010, 08:46:52 PM »

Badger, I think once per month is a fine compromise that will be accepted by the authors of this bill; namely my Veep and SoEA.  You have suggested bi-monthly, but you also say that you intend to exceed that minimum.  If you're going to do better than every two months anyways, what is the harm of writing it into the bill?

Let's please not forget Kal's equally important suggestion that a monthly foreign policy event may be a continuation or update of an event rather than a new storyline altogether. I strongly feel that needs to be addressed in the legislation as well.

I'm still not a fan of mandating GM activity for exactly the reasons given by Purple State, the Patron Saint of Game Moderators. Grin However, with the expansion of mandated time frames to at least a month, and the caveat Kal proposed, well, I can live with that.

Well I have heard you have complained about having no input, and that you want a certain item to it.

So why don't we kill two birds with one stone. You write up an amendment, that way it suits your fancy, and you can say "I made a difference" in that bill. Wink
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2010, 09:51:46 PM »

Badger, I think once per month is a fine compromise that will be accepted by the authors of this bill; namely my Veep and SoEA.  You have suggested bi-monthly, but you also say that you intend to exceed that minimum.  If you're going to do better than every two months anyways, what is the harm of writing it into the bill?

Let's please not forget Kal's equally important suggestion that a monthly foreign policy event may be a continuation or update of an event rather than a new storyline altogether. I strongly feel that needs to be addressed in the legislation as well.

I'm still not a fan of mandating GM activity for exactly the reasons given by Purple State, the Patron Saint of Game Moderators. Grin However, with the expansion of mandated time frames to at least a month, and the caveat Kal proposed, well, I can live with that.


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Well I have heard you have complained about having no input, and that you want a certain item to it.

So why don't we kill two birds with one stone. You write up an amendment, that way it suits your fancy, and you can say "I made a difference" in that bill. Wink

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Amendment offered and accepted as friendly.


Senators have 24 hours to object.

For the record, I included the President "or" SoEA language instead of "and" for one reason: What if at some point the SoEA or President should obtain information that, for whatever reason, they may wish to keep from the other? "Plausible deniability"?, mistrust on a particular issue? "national security"? And then what if despite such secrecy the GM determined info of such stonewalling reached the other, or even became public? Wouldn't that be insanely juicy and fun to play? Cheesy

Now, I seriously doubt that's going to happen. A wise SoEA and President will trust the other and work together. But international diplomacy isn't always pretty, so "what if"?

Not that I expect that'll happen in this Administration. Not after Fritz already ripped Hash a new one about those payments in Krugerrands....

But I've said too much...Grin
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2010, 09:59:21 PM »

Badger, I think once per month is a fine compromise that will be accepted by the authors of this bill; namely my Veep and SoEA.  You have suggested bi-monthly, but you also say that you intend to exceed that minimum.  If you're going to do better than every two months anyways, what is the harm of writing it into the bill?

Let's please not forget Kal's equally important suggestion that a monthly foreign policy event may be a continuation or update of an event rather than a new storyline altogether. I strongly feel that needs to be addressed in the legislation as well.

I'm still not a fan of mandating GM activity for exactly the reasons given by Purple State, the Patron Saint of Game Moderators. Grin However, with the expansion of mandated time frames to at least a month, and the caveat Kal proposed, well, I can live with that.


For the record, I included
Well I have heard you have complained about having no input, and that you want a certain item to it.

So why don't we kill two birds with one stone. You write up an amendment, that way it suits your fancy, and you can say "I made a difference" in that bill. Wink

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Amendment offered and accepted as friendly.


Senators have 24 hours to object.

For the record, I included the President "or" SoEA language instead of "and" for one reason: What if at some point the SoEA or President should obtain information that, for whatever reason, they may wish to keep from the other? "Plausible deniability"?, mistrust on a particular issue? "national security"? And then what if despite such secrecy the GM determined info of such stonewalling reached the other, or even became public? Wouldn't that be insanely juicy and fun to play? Cheesy

Now, I seriously doubt that's going to happen. A wise SoEA and President will trust the other and work together. But international diplomacy isn't always pretty, so "what if"?

Not that I expect that'll happen in this Administration. Not after Fritz already ripped Hash a new one about those payments in Krugerrands....
But I've said too much...Grin

There is this guy named Darrell on the phone, he says he wants you to "testify" about this disturbing piece of information, you have revealed. Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2010, 10:05:01 PM »

"I would love to. But. I. Misspoke. SoEA Hashamite is beyond approach" ouch! Sorry! I can't read your handwriting! "beyond reproach". Help me! He's got a gun!! "Any insinuation of bribery or Cayman Island accounts are utterly false" Dear god someone help me!!!
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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2010, 02:10:20 AM »

"I would love to. But. I. Misspoke. SoEA Hashamite is beyond approach" ouch! Sorry! I can't read your handwriting! "beyond reproach". Help me! He's got a gun!! "Any insinuation of bribery or Cayman Island accounts are utterly false" Dear god someone help me!!!

hmmm Caymen Island accounts? This is getting more intested with each passing moment.

And as for the little issue of the gun, well, we'll be sure to hang him high if he does anything stupid.

Oh wait you idiots got rid of the death penalty. Tongue  Looks like your screwed. Been nice knowing you. Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2010, 02:47:19 AM »

Oh wait you idiots got rid of the death penalty. Tongue  Looks like your screwed. Been nice knowing you. Tongue

While we can't hang people, those, who displeased us may always die in an unfortunate car accidents.
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« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2010, 02:06:28 PM »

Probably as you all noticed, from time to time I'm grossly overreacting. This is not justification, but that usually happens when I have very bad RL day.

Badger, I'm sorry for the tone, but I'm insisting once again, that the bill is not representing any value without section 1. Because without GM involvement, there can't be an active foreign policy. Period.

I can personally accept one month compromise, but if this idea is totally stricken, I'm disavowing this project.
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2010, 03:49:37 PM »

Probably as you all noticed, from time to time I'm grossly overreacting. This is not justification, but that usually happens when I have very bad RL day.

Badger, I'm sorry for the tone, but I'm insisting once again, that the bill is not representing any value without section 1. Because without GM involvement, there can't be an active foreign policy. Period.

I can personally accept one month compromise, but if this idea is totally stricken, I'm disavowing this project.

I will oppose any attempt to strike the requirement entirely.
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« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2010, 04:38:32 PM »

As I said before, a minimum of 1 month, coupled with Kal's proposals to allow continuations/additions to existing storylines, is fine.
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2010, 05:43:41 PM »

Is it just me or are Badger and Kal talking around one another?
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« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2010, 01:30:31 AM »

Is it just me or are Badger and Kal talking around one another?

I think you need to send some insulting PMs.
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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2010, 10:08:36 AM »

I really like this bill and am perfectly fine with the amended version just so everyone knows Smiley
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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2010, 10:38:05 AM »

Is it just me or are Badger and Kal talking around one another?

It's you.
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« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2010, 07:25:52 PM »

Don't tell Keystone Phil, but we were so serious in this thread, no one remembered to actually introduce Badger's amendment. Tongue  Its partially Badger's fault because he quoted the whole text of my post with the previous amendment including the "Senators have 24 hours to object" line. Tongue

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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2010, 07:31:42 PM »

Ok, the merit of the project is saved.
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« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2010, 08:12:56 PM »


Agreed.
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2010, 08:14:56 PM »

I'm sorry for injecting into Yankee duties now, but...

Where the hell are you, so-called "Senators"?
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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2010, 11:12:15 PM »

The amendment has passed by the way.
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« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2010, 03:16:25 PM »

Wait a moment... I'm technically President of the Senate. That mean, I can yell at people too. Yay!

LAZY SHEEPS!
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« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2010, 03:39:21 PM »

I'd like to move for a vote on this bill.
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« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2010, 06:25:18 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2010, 06:28:29 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

A final vote is now open on this bill, Senators please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain?



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« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2010, 07:06:44 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2010, 07:21:00 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2010, 07:31:31 PM »

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