The Iron Throne, the V ASOIAF Game (Sign Up - Rules Thread) (Turn Open)

[Lumine]

The move has been temporarily revoked, I have no PM's from the player in question (and while I do have other PM's on the subject, they're clearly insufficent for me to make out what has been going on.

Unless I recieve a plausible explanation, I may to revoke it outright.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

The move has been temporarily revoked, I have no PM's from the player in question (and while I do have other PM's on the subject, they're clearly insufficent for me to make out what has been going on.

Unless I recieve a plausible explanation, I may to revoke it outright.

I have sent you some PM detailing the exchange.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The move has been temporarily revoked, I have no PM's from the player in question (and while I do have other PM's on the subject, they're clearly insufficent for me to make out what has been going on.

Unless I recieve a plausible explanation, I may to revoke it outright.

I have sent you some PM detailing the exchange.

I can't really imagine what plausible explanation there could possibly be

[Lumine]

Noted, I thank you for sending the missing parts so far (that clears up a confusion I had). That said, I still fail to see the reasoning behind it (why it would be a plausible move from Tyrion).

[leonardothered]

Is it not remembered I did that exact thing as Tyrion lol? He's not going to place the dynasty's pride and honor above his nephew's life; his care and we'll being are important than sitting him atop a seat that would likely kill him. The Lannisters have no allies, and are currently in full tilt battle with Ironborn in the heart of the Wasteland whom have already broken into Casterly Rock once! They now have to fight not only the ironborn but are still in a deadly struggle with  a Tully/Stark/Vale/Baratheon alliance lol. If he continues on said course, they will almost certainly be heads on spikes by the end of this. No amount of gold or Tyroshi sells words can save a house without alliances nor any possible alliances.

Tldr I already did this and it ended up being a fantastic move even though it didn't work out completely.

Does anyone honestly think Tyrion thinks he can win a war against the Edric power bloc, independent ironborn AND Viserys lol? He'd realize the cause was basically lost once Tywin died, the Vale RL and North all allied under a storm king and he was invaded by ironborn full tilt.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Is it not remembered I did that exact thing as Tyrion lol? He's not going to place the dynasty's pride and honor above his nephew's life; his care and we'll being are important than sitting him atop a seat that would likely kill him. The Lannisters have no allies, and are currently in full tilt battle with Ironborn in the heart of the Wasteland whom have already broken into Casterly Rock once! They now have to fight not only the ironborn but are still in a deadly struggle with  a Tully/Stark/Vale/Baratheon alliance lol. If he continues on said course, they will almost certainly be heads on spikes by the end of this. No amount of gold or Tyroshi sells words can save a house without alliances nor any possible alliances.

Tldr I already did this and it ended up being a fantastic move even though it didn't work out completely.

Does anyone honestly think Tyrion thinks he can win a war against the Edric power bloc, independent ironborn AND Viserys lol? He'd realize the cause was basically lost once Tywin died, the Vale RL and North all allied under a storm king and he was invaded by ironborn full tilt.

1) This an insanely bad deal for the Lannisters

2) It should've been struck down on OOC grounds in the previous game IMO, but the rules were also a lot more lax in that game.  I'd also argue it wasn't such a hot move then, all due respect.  Plus you actually got something out of it

3) Tommen can definitely still win on his own

4) The whole alliance makes absolutely no sense.

[badgate]

Oh damn y'all

[Dereich]

Turn over? Since we're a few hours past midnight I'll assume so and announce that I intend to rejoin (unless something goes HORRIBLY WRONG) as Randall Tarly.

[leonardothered]

Is it not remembered I did that exact thing as Tyrion lol? He's not going to place the dynasty's pride and honor above his nephew's life; his care and we'll being are important than sitting him atop a seat that would likely kill him. The Lannisters have no allies, and are currently in full tilt battle with Ironborn in the heart of the Wasteland whom have already broken into Casterly Rock once! They now have to fight not only the ironborn but are still in a deadly struggle with  a Tully/Stark/Vale/Baratheon alliance lol. If he continues on said course, they will almost certainly be heads on spikes by the end of this. No amount of gold or Tyroshi sells words can save a house without alliances nor any possible alliances.

Tldr I already did this and it ended up being a fantastic move even though it didn't work out completely.

Does anyone honestly think Tyrion thinks he can win a war against the Edric power bloc, independent ironborn AND Viserys lol? He'd realize the cause was basically lost once Tywin died, the Vale RL and North all allied under a storm king and he was invaded by ironborn full tilt.

1) This an insanely bad deal for the Lannisters

2) It should've been struck down on OOC grounds in the previous game IMO, but the rules were also a lot more lax in that game.  I'd also argue it wasn't such a hot move then, all due respect.  Plus you actually got something out of it

3) Tommen can definitely still win on his own

4) The whole alliance makes absolutely no sense.

You also don't see the entire picture

A hot move? As I see it the Lannisters have one real army, as most of their troops from Tywin either vanished or are now under Randyll Tarly. They don't even have enough men under Jaime to fight the ironborn let alone hold onto their prizes in the Riverlands against a Tully/Stark/Vale/Baratheon alliance.

And if we're talking about OOC we're certainly going to have to bring the actions of one Petyr Baelish into the discussion lol.

[leonardothered]

Also I assume turn is still open until we get a ruling on things. Either way it impacts things a lot.

[windjammer]

Turn over? Since we're a few hours past midnight I'll assume so and announce that I intend to rejoin (unless something goes HORRIBLY WRONG) as Randall Tarly.

I guess you could play Cersei Lannister as she will llikely kill Tyrion and become Lady of Casterly Rock

[DKrol]

I don't think the deal should stand. I don't see a reasonable basis for it.

[Lumine]

The deal is formally revoked. I don't rule out a different version if things get to the point in which it looks more plausible, but right now it doesn't.

Turn is over, end of turn will come during the day.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Is it not remembered I did that exact thing as Tyrion lol? He's not going to place the dynasty's pride and honor above his nephew's life; his care and we'll being are important than sitting him atop a seat that would likely kill him. The Lannisters have no allies, and are currently in full tilt battle with Ironborn in the heart of the Wasteland whom have already broken into Casterly Rock once! They now have to fight not only the ironborn but are still in a deadly struggle with  a Tully/Stark/Vale/Baratheon alliance lol. If he continues on said course, they will almost certainly be heads on spikes by the end of this. No amount of gold or Tyroshi sells words can save a house without alliances nor any possible alliances.

Tldr I already did this and it ended up being a fantastic move even though it didn't work out completely.

Does anyone honestly think Tyrion thinks he can win a war against the Edric power bloc, independent ironborn AND Viserys lol? He'd realize the cause was basically lost once Tywin died, the Vale RL and North all allied under a storm king and he was invaded by ironborn full tilt.

1) This an insanely bad deal for the Lannisters

2) It should've been struck down on OOC grounds in the previous game IMO, but the rules were also a lot more lax in that game.  I'd also argue it wasn't such a hot move then, all due respect.  Plus you actually got something out of it

3) Tommen can definitely still win on his own

4) The whole alliance makes absolutely no sense.

You also don't see the entire picture

A hot move? As I see it the Lannisters have one real army, as most of their troops from Tywin either vanished or are now under Randyll Tarly. They don't even have enough men under Jaime to fight the ironborn let alone hold onto their prizes in the Riverlands against a Tully/Stark/Vale/Baratheon alliance.

And if we're talking about OOC we're certainly going to have to bring the actions of one Petyr Baelish into the discussion lol.

To be honest, I'm actually pretty confident that I haven't done anything insanely OOC (much less something as hilariously OOC as the rightly revoked deal), but feel free to give it your best shot if you think I do something anywhere near as OOC as this deal would've been for Tyrion  And of course, there are many degrees of OOC.  A certain amount controlled OOC behavior every now-and-then is necessary for a game like this to work, but there's a fine line between that and completely throwing all pretense of IC gameplay out the window.  And even if Tyrion did something like this, the WesterLords would instantly disregard it, kill him, and put Kevan in charge

[Lumine]

Only one player didn't sent orders, which will affect some of the other orders sent. Other than that, I'll get to the dice rolls.

[windjammer]

Only one player didn't sent orders, which will affect some of the other orders sent. Other than that, I'll get to the dice rolls.

Who?

[Lumine]

Only one player didn't sent orders, which will affect some of the other orders sent. Other than that, I'll get to the dice rolls.

Who?

House Martell.

[Lumine]

Not sure how to put this, but, well, four of you are dead. (and it could have been as much as seven, believe it or not)

[DKrol]

Not sure how to put this, but, well, four of you are dead.

LOL The most GoT post ever.

[leonardothered]

The deal is formally revoked. I don't rule out a different version if things get to the point in which it looks more plausible, but right now it doesn't.

Turn is over, end of turn will come during the day.

I didn't even have a chance to send real orders... As of last night nothing had been deciding and had huge bearing on what would occur...

[Lumine]

The deal is formally revoked. I don't rule out a different version if things get to the point in which it looks more plausible, but right now it doesn't.

Turn is over, end of turn will come during the day.

I didn't even have a chance to send real orders... As of last night nothing had been deciding and had huge bearing on what would occur...

Hm. Any chance you could send emergency ones to complete the turn?

[windjammer]

Not sure how to put this, but, well, four of you are dead. (and it could have been as much as seven, believe it or not)

Let me guess, I was assassinated a second time lol?

[leonardothered]

The deal is formally revoked. I don't rule out a different version if things get to the point in which it looks more plausible, but right now it doesn't.

Turn is over, end of turn will come during the day.

I didn't even have a chance to send real orders... As of last night nothing had been deciding and had huge bearing on what would occur...

Hm. Any chance you could send emergency ones to complete the turn?

Scribbled and sent, thanks for the chance to do so

[Swedge]

Not sure how to put this, but, well, four of you are dead. (and it could have been as much as seven, believe it or not)

Uh oh.

[Enduro]

Dying is exhausting; I'm not sure I'll return for House Stark. Although, I really can't.