The Atlas Gentleman's Social Club 1945

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

On the occassion of my forced departure I must state that Prussian location would fit fell.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

I do hope my friends from Pole-Land can regain their dukedom from the Czar.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I do hope my friends from Pole-Land can regain their dukedom from the Czar.

Sir, I am grossly dissapointed with you. The proper term, a gentleman should use, is Tsar, not Czar. Czar? That how ordinary people say it.

[The Mikado]

I must address Messrs Republic and hawkeye's disdain for women's suffrage.  As you gentlemen know, it already exists in large swathes of the Union, and no longer the province of wives of Western silver miners.  I would recomend John Stuart Mill's On the Subjugation of Women for further reference.  Mr. Mill speaks for me as he does on many things.

I must say that the Austrian belligerence towards the Balkans makes me nervous.  Yesterday the rabble staged a parade for young men (Slovenes, Croats, Czechs, other Slavic trash) returning home to serve in the Austrian army.  While I welcome the departure of the refuse of the Balkans, I worry at the implications of a Balkan war.  I hear the Greeks and Bulgars (perhaps Messrs px75 and Gmantis would weigh in) wish to drive the Ottomans out of Europe.

[Хahar 🤔]

So how about them Philadelphia Athletics beating those God-forsaken New York Giants in the base ball championship?

The New York Nationals shall return in the coming season and methinks they shall prevail in the World's Series. John McGraw is as superb a leader of men as any general in Europe, and with Christopher Mathewson and Richard Marquard he shall surely have adequate ammunition.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Oriental politics are not my strong suite Sir. However with Europe at peace any confrontations between the main powers are likely to occur in Asia. The Russians clearly have sights on Persia and the British must secure our interests to ensure that the Russians do not threaten India. I think this is somewhat unlikely of course, however with Ottoman weakness we must train a keen eye on the region at all times.

The Young Turks are doing their best to restore the Ottoman state.  Since the interests of Russia and Austria in promoting stable multi-ethnic authoritarian empires are aligned, I think that those three empires are likely to join together in common cause.  The British naval paranoia is keeping John Bull from realizing that a strong relationship with the industrious Germania is far more important than recent efforts to woo the grisette Marianne.

[Dancing with Myself]

Have any of you fellows heard of this Eugene Debs fellow? He makes some valid points but I cannot bring myself to vote for him.

I personally hope Mr. Roosevelt runs again, Mr. Washington has some valid points but we are ahead in time One Hundred and fourteen years. Times are different, and Mr. Roosevelt should be allowed to lead again.

For baseball, I hope the Boston National league team does well. I only wish for the new owner, Mr. Russell, to choose a name that would stand out. Me and my pals believe the Braves to be a great new name for the team and have contacted the owner with our proposal.  Hopefully with the lord's help it will turn out well.

[ilikeverin]

I must address Messrs Republic and hawkeye's disdain for women's suffrage.  As you gentlemen know, it already exists in large swathes of the Union, and no longer the province of wives of Western silver miners.  I would recomend John Stuart Mill's On the Subjugation of Women for further reference.  Mr. Mill speaks for me as he does on many things.

I too share the sentiments expressed in this message.  There is no reason why the women in the Women Course at M.A.C. should not have the same voting rights as us male Aggies.  Why, just four years ago the great BULL MOOSE made his presence known at M.A.C. and awarded a diploma to a Negress; if we live in a country where a Negress can get a university degree, why not one in which a woman may vote?  I hear Gov. Osborn, a man whom I much respect, is in favor of women's suffrage himself.  I do hope that the esteemed legislature of the Wolverine State would favor a proposal adopting suffrage for women.  It is a shame what happened at the Constitutional Convention just a few years ago, but I have hopes that the situation will soon be rectified.

A hearty smile and three heartfelt embraces to all.

[feeblepizza]

Have any of you fellows heard of this Eugene Debs fellow? He makes some valid points but I cannot bring myself to vote for him.

I personally hope Mr. Roosevelt runs again, Mr. Washington has some valid points but we are ahead in time One Hundred and fourteen years. Times are different, and Mr. Roosevelt should be allowed to lead again.

I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Debs while accidentally stumbling upon a speech of his during the last presidential election. I found him very displeasing and informed him so while he went through the crowd to shake the hands  of his supporters. He stated that I would be better off leaving the event, and I obliged.

As for Mr. Roosevelt, I believe he should decline a run in 1912. If he were to become the Republican nominee, however, I would support him for the sake of defeating whatever dreadful candidate the Democrats choose to nominate.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I personally hope Mr. Roosevelt runs again, Mr. Washington has some valid points but we are ahead in time One Hundred and fourteen years. Times are different, and Mr. Roosevelt should be allowed to lead again.

As for Mr. Roosevelt, I believe he should decline a run in 1912. If he were to become the Republican nominee, however, I would support him for the sake of defeating whatever dreadful candidate the Democrats choose to nominate.

Is there really a difference between the two parties?  You have to take a look at the party label to find a difference.  Besides, the Republican Party has served its purpose.  A new party with a progressive outlook is what is needed, especially in the Deep South. It is clear that Southerners will never vote for a Republican.  It has been fifty years since the Rebellion was started, but it is clear that even a century from now, there will not be any Republicans elected from the original seven sinners. (Barring the end of Negro disenfranchisement, but without another Civil War I don't see that happening.)

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Here's a look at the Gubernatorial races this year.

Georgia (possible election)
Senator Terrell is likely to die or resign soon from the stroke he suffered back in February.  Word is that the Legislature is likely to elect the current governor, Hoke Smith, to take his place as Senator, which would promote the President of the Senate, John M. Slaton to be acting Governor.  The Legislature could call for a special election, which likely depends on how soon Terrell gives up his palsied grip on office.

Kentucky:
Judge Edward C. O'Rear of Kentucky Court of appeals is the likely Republican nominee, while James B. McCreary, the former U.S. Senator and Governor is the likely Democratic nominee.  This is almost certainly a Democratic pickup no matter who wins the nominations, given how unpopular the GOP incumbent is.

Maryland:
Too early to tell who will be the Republican sacrificial lamb in this contest.  I expect that as usual, the Democrat will win.

Massachusetts:
While it does give us a lot to chat about in this club, I think Massachusetts would be wise to end its practice of having annual elections for governor.

Mississippi:
Conversely, this State is the complete opposite to Massachusetts.  Earl LeRoy Brewer, who narrowly lost the Democratic primary last time is unopposed so far, and even if the GOP can find a sacrificial elephant to run, the Democrat will win here.

[Lief 🗽]

I for one think the Socialist Party will have a very good shot at, if not winning, at least making significant gains and perhaps emerging as the second party in the coming presidential election. For progressives, it's clear that Taft has been a major failure, and unless the Democrats nominate Bryan once more, they're likely to stick with some unassuming conservative who will once again have trouble winning much more than the former Confederacy. The Socialists will have a terrific opportunity.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I for one think the Socialist Party will have a very good shot at, if not winning, at least making significant gains and perhaps emerging as the second party in the coming presidential election. For progressives, it's clear that Taft has been a major failure, and unless the Democrats nominate Bryan once more, they're likely to stick with some unassuming conservative who will once again have trouble winning much more than the former Confederacy. The Socialists will have a terrific opportunity.

It is interesting to hear this opinion; on this side of the Atlantic a consensus has grown in recent years that the cause of Socialism in America is bewilderingly weak. Werner Sombart's arguments have been particularly influential, which is unfortunate as they are quite seriously flawed in several respects.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Gentlemen, I'm confident you already heard a dreadful news, that a poor yet dangerous man escaped asylum and is on loose.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

While I am a Cleveland Naps fan, I think the major leagues could use some expansion so as to allow the highest level of baseball to be available more widely.  I think that the Baltimore Oriole, Buffalo Bisons, Indianapolis Indians, and Milwaukee Brewers would be the best additions.

Baltimore should join the National League since the junior circuit has the Senators.

Buffalo should go to the American League so both leagues will have two New York state teams.

Indianapolis should go to the American League, so that the Indians and the Braves are in separate leagues.

That leaves the Brewers to join the senior circuit.

[Lief 🗽]

I for one think the Socialist Party will have a very good shot at, if not winning, at least making significant gains and perhaps emerging as the second party in the coming presidential election. For progressives, it's clear that Taft has been a major failure, and unless the Democrats nominate Bryan once more, they're likely to stick with some unassuming conservative who will once again have trouble winning much more than the former Confederacy. The Socialists will have a terrific opportunity.

It is interesting to hear this opinion; on this side of the Atlantic a consensus has grown in recent years that the cause of Socialism in America is bewilderingly weak. Werner Sombart's arguments have been particularly influential, which is unfortunate as they are quite seriously flawed in several respects.

While Sombart's devotion to Marxism and his keen understanding of Marx and Engel's works is to be commended, we should remember that both Marx and Engels predicted that socialism would see some of its greatest and earliest success in the United States. Engels stood by this view until his death, not two decades ago. No, I am very confident that the Socialist Party will see great success in 1912. In the past year we have elected hundreds of candidates across the country, including many mayors who will hopefully work to build effective urban political machines. It's likely our party membership will be some 125,000 before the next election. If not for the personal vote for Bryan in 1908, Debs may well have polled over a million votes; he should easily clear that hurdle next November. Of course the continued willingness of that bastard Gompers to align his union with the capitalist parties is hurting the Socialists, but mark my words: by the '20s no one will be asking why there is no socialism in the United States ever again.

[The Mikado]

Youth!  Singing outside my door, the portal to my abode, is bad enough: singing, loudly, the compositions of that Jew Berlin is intolerable.  "C'mon an' hear?"  I would rather not come on and hear Alexander's ragtime band, I don't care if this Alexander fellow can play Swanee River in ragtime.  What sort of composition tells one to listen to other music?

If the Jew Berlin has one redeeming feature, it is that he is not Mr. George M. Cohan (and heaven help you if you forget that precious M. of his!).  How many aspiring young singers end up embracing his flag-waving trashy nonsense over the chance to achieve greatness as Otello or Salome (praise is due to Herr  Strauss for redeeming the perviously meritless and blaspphemous trash of the late frivolous sodomite Wilde)?  Last time I was in New York I asked a promising looking lad why he preferred trashy vaudeville.  He said, "Cuz that's where the future is, chappie!  See the vaudeville, have a drink, meet the dancer, get sued for breach of promise..."  With that sort of attitude, I daresay that is the last I'll hear from young Mr. P. G. Wodehouse.  "Chappie," indeed.

On the stage, the state of affairs is not much better.  Everyone either wants to listen to dreadful tedium from that confounded Fabian Mr. Shaw or fall into manic depression thanks to that ghastly Norwegian with the ridiculous name...Ibsen?  What has happened to the theater I once adored?

[Хahar 🤔]

While I am a Cleveland Naps fan, I think the major leagues could use some expansion so as to allow the highest level of baseball to be available more widely.  I think that the Baltimore Oriole, Buffalo Bisons, Indianapolis Indians, and Milwaukee Brewers would be the best additions.

Baltimore should join the National League since the junior circuit has the Senators.

Buffalo should go to the American League so both leagues will have two New York state teams.

Indianapolis should go to the American League, so that the Indians and the Braves are in separate leagues.

That leaves the Brewers to join the senior circuit.

There are rumors afoot of a Federal circuit being created to join the National and American leagues. Perhaps that shall answer your concerns.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

There are rumors afoot of a Federal circuit being created to join the National and American leagues. Perhaps that shall answer your concerns.

Doubtful.  A third major league would want to include some of the cities already served by the existing two leagues.  I can't see that being a success.  Maybe New York could find room for yet another team, especially if they played in The Bronx, but moving one of the two Manhattan teams (most likely the Highlanders) to the Bronx would be an effective counter to that.

A third major league would need to be either out west on in the south, but I just don't see either region having enough large cities to support a eight team major league.  Plus, who wants to watch baseball in the heat and humidity of a southern summer?

[afleitch]

The Atlas Gentleman's Social Club of Psephology and Cartography 1924


Gentlemen.

If I may draw your attention away from the finer things in life for just a moment. I was just given the most frightful bums rush from a charming little club in Pimlico and here I am back in Glasgow once again. I took a bit of a jolly to Germany at the start of the month. It is very nice to see democracy in action though I am a little miffed that the Reds in all their hues seemed to do so well. Damned Bolshies went from 4 seats to 62 and the Social Democrats slipped back, but hey ho they still remain the largest party. No doubt we will have an election here soon.

Say, Yanks what's happening over there. Is Mr Coolidge a shoo in?

Yours

Afleitch

[feeblepizza]

Mr. Coolidge and Mr. Davis are similar in their beliefs, but Mr. Coolidge has the advantage due to his incumbency. Whatever progressive go to the polls this year will vote for LaFollette, who I doubt will do well outside of the Roosevelt states (1912).

[King]

*wakes up from drunken whiskey slumber*

Emrgh, LaFolette and whatnot.

*back to sleep*

[hawkeye59]

Mr. LaFollette has my vote, but Mr. Coolidge is popular, and the Democratic Convention was a disaster. How is the UK political situation going, with MacDonald and all?

[afleitch]

Perhaps a gin and tonic will be just the tonic for the prior poster! I'm sure Mr Coolidge will be on fine form for this year; he's due to sign the new immigration act which is horridly biased towards certain peoples over others. As long as it doesn't affect leisure class tourism. Everyone I know is raving about New York this time of the year.

Mr. LaFollette has my vote, but Mr. Coolidge is popular, and the Democratic Convention was a disaster. How is the UK political situation going, with MacDonald and all?

It's a trifle boring if you ask me. Labour hold office by default since last year but are in the minority by far. I suppose socialism had to come to Westminster at soem point even if it only has one leg. Still it passed a housing bill to eradicate those awful slums. They are ghastly. Mr Macdonald is due to meet the old Allies again to do something about reparations. It still lingers over Europe like a nasty stench.

[King]

FOOLISH JOCK, I will not tolerate such talk of healthful tonics in these dark prohibition times from some redcoat!  The truth is the Democratic Party must push forth on the issue of Teapot Dome and organized crime.

Now, if you excuse me, my wife will be waiting at Penn Station for a train I feign riding, and so, I bid you good day!