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« Reply #150 on: November 27, 2018, 02:13:30 AM »
« edited: November 27, 2018, 02:29:09 AM by GMantis »

How about Emanuel Cleaver in the 5th Missouri district? It's not as Democratic as it once was, while the adjacent 4th and 6th are much more Republican. So if after 2020 the governor is Republican, what would prevent the district being split between the 4th and 6th and a new district being created in central Missouri?
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« Reply #151 on: November 27, 2018, 08:44:10 AM »

How about Emanuel Cleaver in the 5th Missouri district? It's not as Democratic as it once was, while the adjacent 4th and 6th are much more Republican. So if after 2020 the governor is Republican, what would prevent the district being split between the 4th and 6th and a new district being created in central Missouri?
Yeah him too. He deserves it. I'm gonna laugh
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« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2018, 09:06:48 AM »

How about Emanuel Cleaver in the 5th Missouri district? It's not as Democratic as it once was, while the adjacent 4th and 6th are much more Republican. So if after 2020 the governor is Republican, what would prevent the district being split between the 4th and 6th and a new district being created in central Missouri?

First off, the reason the seat is less Dem is because of the 'arm' to the East, the city and her suburbs are only getting more blue.

 Second, this seat is somewhat protected by geography, being all the way on the edge of the state. You would have to rework three or four districts into tendrils to kill the city.  Along with reinforcing the second, this means basically every Pub will have a new, squiggly CD. Not the best scenario for incumbents wishing to retain their local loyal constituents.

Finally, there is Amendment 1, Missouri's new fair districts amendment which creates a nonpartisan demographer office charged with drawing maps that reflect the views of local constituents and state electoral lines. This position is appointed by the SOS, spoiler who is a democrat. Now right now, Amendment 1 only covers local legislative lines. But considering the trend-line of legislative redistricting amendments, they are almost always extended by initiative to federal redistricting ASAP. If it does get passed, there is no way the commissioner can create maps that cut Kansas City without violating the orders of his commission. Such rules though do though prevent dem hopes of winning a third cd in the Show-Me State.
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« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2018, 09:25:44 AM »

How about Emanuel Cleaver in the 5th Missouri district? It's not as Democratic as it once was, while the adjacent 4th and 6th are much more Republican. So if after 2020 the governor is Republican, what would prevent the district being split between the 4th and 6th and a new district being created in central Missouri?

First off, the reason the seat is less Dem is because of the 'arm' to the East, the city and her suburbs are only getting more blue.

 Second, this seat is somewhat protected by geography, being all the way on the edge of the state. You would have to rework three or four districts into tendrils to kill the city.  Along with reinforcing the second, this means basically every Pub will have a new, squiggly CD. Not the best scenario for incumbents wishing to retain their local loyal constituents.

Finally, there is Amendment 1, Missouri's new fair districts amendment which creates a nonpartisan demographer office charged with drawing maps that reflect the views of local constituents and state electoral lines. This position is appointed by the SOS, spoiler who is a democrat. Now right now, Amendment 1 only covers local legislative lines. But considering the trend-line of legislative redistricting amendments, they are almost always extended by initiative to federal redistricting ASAP. If it does get passed, there is no way the commissioner can create maps that cut Kansas City without violating the orders of his commission. Such rules though do though prevent dem hopes of winning a third cd in the Show-Me State.

that arm to the east is what Cleaver wanted to get to Columbia + kansas city trended R in 2016 on the MO side(although a heavy D trend on the kansas side)

I really hope Cleaver gets gerrymandered. He deserves it the most.
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« Reply #154 on: November 27, 2018, 11:49:06 AM »

Second, this seat is somewhat protected by geography, being all the way on the edge of the state. You would have to rework three or four districts into tendrils to kill the city.  Along with reinforcing the second, this means basically every Pub will have a new, squiggly CD. Not the best scenario for incumbents wishing to retain their local loyal constituents.

Not that squiggly.





MO-04 (Red): R+12.0
MO-05 (Yellow): R+10.0
MO-06 (Teal): R+12.0

The rest of the state left over for the other 5 districts is R+7.5. So after making a St. Louis vote sink, the other 4 R districts can obviously easily be safe.

But yeah, if they do something like this that will help non-partisan redistricting get passed in the future.
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« Reply #155 on: November 27, 2018, 11:54:55 AM »

Second, this seat is somewhat protected by geography, being all the way on the edge of the state. You would have to rework three or four districts into tendrils to kill the city.  Along with reinforcing the second, this means basically every Pub will have a new, squiggly CD. Not the best scenario for incumbents wishing to retain their local loyal constituents.

Not that squiggly.





MO-04 (Red): R+12.0
MO-05 (Yellow): R+10.0
MO-06 (Teal): R+12.0

The rest of the state left over for the other 5 districts is R+7.5. So after making a St. Louis vote sink, the other 4 R districts can obviously easily be safe.

But yeah, if they do something like this that will help non-partisan redistricting get passed in the future.

yeah this would generally work
The GOP would also have to worry about the 2nd district but I guess they could do the same thing with the 2nd being split up among 3 districts too and 1 last Titanium R district in rural MO.
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