2012 NDP leadership convention

[MaxQue]

IMO he's coming dangerously close to holding traditional NDP culture in contempt.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1069500--tim-harper-tom-mulcair-versus-the-ndp-elite

NDP needs to extend beyond the traditional NDP if they want to gain power.
That will be painful for the elites, but it is needed.

[MaxQue]

This won't fly with the Anglo community, not by a long shot. But I'd let the Grits make this argument.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/the-real-thomas-mulcair/article2201488/

Does Alliance Quebec is still relevent?
They wrote that text.

[MaxQue]

Pierre Dionne Labelle, MP for Rivière-du-Nord endorsed Romeo Saganash.

[MaxQue]

I think it is the whole point of the candidacy of one of my MPs, Romeo Saganash.
(My other MP is Thomas Mulcair, which obviously run for winning.)

[MaxQue]

And he's shorter in person.

Yes, clearly. I was shocked when I saw him at university in March. I thought he was taller.

[MaxQue]

My question is obvious.

Will the debate be bilingual or only in English?

[MaxQue]

I thought than Mulcair was raised in Laval, but born in Ottawa, no?

[MaxQue]

Why do you prefer Topp over Mulcair when, from what I've seen, he represents a lot of what you dislike.

I think it indicates strenght, not his preferences.

[MaxQue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nu_dx84wjR8#t=186s

Martineau Duhaime talks about PQ, NDP, and a cute comment about the BQ. I have no idea who he is, but I like his attitude.

Martineau is a clueless self-proclamed pundit.
Duhaime is a libertarian nut.

[MaxQue]

On another note, who gives a rat's ass about Martin Singh's "real" name?

The true question is "who cares about Martin Singh?".

[MaxQue]

Apparently, him and Dewar were barely understandable in French.
And Chisholm was having an earplug for translation of what was said in French.

[MaxQue]

Nominations happen at the riding level. I think it's wrong to tell voters in those nomination meetings that they are somehow "bad people" - and that's the implication - for voting for a man. In fact, if Dewar is serious, he should drop out and endorse Ashton or Nash.

I'm opposed to all quotas or incitatives to select or favor someone according to its race, gender, etc.., in all spheres of public live.

That is including nomination meetings.

[MaxQue]

Topp said he won't run in Toronto-Danforth.

He also said than he wants to run in a Quebec riding if elected leader.

[MaxQue]

He said than he will start searching after the leadership election.

[MaxQue]

Something interesting about the debates from an interview with Saganash in a Abitibi newspaper.

The Vancouver, Winnipeg and Halifax debates will be in English.
The Montreal and Quebec ones will be in French.

[MaxQue]

She understood a thing about Quebec, at least.

In Quebec news, she decided to complain about her fellow candidates which aren't bilingual, saying it is making no sense to run if you don't really talk French.

[MaxQue]

She understood a thing about Quebec, at least.

In Quebec news, she decided to complain about her fellow candidates which aren't bilingual, saying it is making no sense to run if you don't really talk French.

Valid complaints, so long as she remembers that she'll need their delegates in March.

Delegates? Wrong race, I think.

[MaxQue]

Saganash seems like he needs to learn a few relaxation exercises, frankly.

Well, he was having a bronchitis, that didn't helped him.

[MaxQue]

The thing is Mulcair is very difficult to deal with and is volatile and if he became leader he could sef-destruct.

In the short term Mulcair is best for the NDP in Quebec because he's a household name, but if the NDP picks someone else who is fluently bilingual like Topp or Nash that person will become well known as well and will have the the next three years to build profile. The NDP still has one major advantage in Quebec - their policies are exactly what Quebecers want at the federal level!

Would Cullen work for Quebec?  I hear he's also bilingual. 

Bilingual is a bit of a strecht.

[MaxQue]

I think that if Liberals get a stronger leader and Topp gets leadership, NDP will sink. Nash can be weak at French, but she can have a strong bond with Quebec in policies. That was the first factor for Orange Crush.

Why would Nash have any better a bond with Quebec policy-wise than Topp? They both sing very much the same policy hymn book, plus he is Quebecer and speaks a more colloquial French than she does. Her French is not "weak" its actually very strong. Nash has a graduate degree in French literature.

Because I don't get a good vibe from Topp. I suppose I'm not alone.

[MaxQue]

and he's very articulate in French too!

Not really surprising from someone who grew in French and suburban Longueuil.

[MaxQue]

CSD, what's your unease with Topp about?

He fell from nowhere and instrumentalised the death of someone.

[MaxQue]

Mulcair is not francophone. HIs mother tongue is English.

Well, francophone is defined more by use of language than by mother tongue.

[MaxQue]

1. Mulcair
2. Nash
3. Dewar
4. Saganash
5. Ashton
6. Cullen
7. Singh
8. Topp

An aside - Hatman, since I have signatures turned off, whenever I see your posts, I think to myself "I don't remember posting that" until I realize...

I tend to agree with that ballot, except than I would rank Saganash higher, as he is my MP.
Another place where we look like each other. It begins to be creepy.

[MaxQue]

Topp: The choice between Mulcair and I is an ideological one.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/topp-drops-his-gloves-to-take-shot-at-ndp-rival-mulcair/article2286790/

No thanks.

I don't think than having a rigid ideologist which creates tensions in the party is a good choice.
Especially when he says nonsence to attack people.

Topp is a very bad choice and I hope than NDP members are smart enough to see it.