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« Reply #100 on: May 05, 2011, 09:56:08 PM »

Labour underperforming?
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« Reply #101 on: May 05, 2011, 09:56:45 PM »

BBC report that the Conservatives have gained overall control of Boston from the Bypass Independents.  C 19 Others 10 Lab 3.
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« Reply #102 on: May 05, 2011, 10:06:12 PM »

Labour take back Telford & Wrekin.
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« Reply #103 on: May 05, 2011, 10:14:14 PM »


An illustration of the Lib Dem rout in the Mets - Horwich now has no Lib Dem councillors for the first time in many years.  (The old unified Horwich ward was consistently Lib Dem at least since 1996.)  When Labour gained Horwich NE last year I thought it was a fluke - I was wrong.
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« Reply #104 on: May 05, 2011, 10:18:09 PM »

Why are the Tories only down a handful of councillors? What's the story?
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« Reply #105 on: May 05, 2011, 10:19:18 PM »

Why are the Tories only down a handful of councillors? What's the story?

Lib Dems getting the beating instead?
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« Reply #106 on: May 05, 2011, 10:21:37 PM »

Tories knew what they were voting for?
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« Reply #107 on: May 05, 2011, 10:25:34 PM »

Projected vote share based on English councils

Lab 37% (+8) Con 35% (-1) LD 15 (-8)


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« Reply #108 on: May 05, 2011, 10:41:38 PM »

Just jumping in here, obviously looks like the Tories hanging tough while Labour pummels the LibDems, is that the developing story?
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« Reply #109 on: May 05, 2011, 10:43:05 PM »

Just jumping in here, obviously looks like the Tories hanging tough while Labour pummels the LibDems, is that the developing story?

Seems to be the main narrative...a side narrative is that the Tories and Labour are arguing over a shifting set of goal posts of Labour gains in order to say whether Labour succeeded tonight.

In other news, the world is round.
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« Reply #110 on: May 05, 2011, 10:48:42 PM »

Would it be too big a stretch to say Labour not pushing the Tories too hard + Labour crapout in Scotland equals at least a push on the night for the Conservatives?



Just jumping in here, obviously looks like the Tories hanging tough while Labour pummels the LibDems, is that the developing story?

Seems to be the main narrative...a side narrative is that the Tories and Labour are arguing over a shifting set of goal posts of Labour gains in order to say whether Labour succeeded tonight.

In other news, the world is round.
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« Reply #111 on: May 05, 2011, 10:53:45 PM »

Would it be too big a stretch to say Labour not pushing the Tories too hard + Labour crapout in Scotland equals at least a push on the night for the Conservatives?



Just jumping in here, obviously looks like the Tories hanging tough while Labour pummels the LibDems, is that the developing story?

Seems to be the main narrative...a side narrative is that the Tories and Labour are arguing over a shifting set of goal posts of Labour gains in order to say whether Labour succeeded tonight.

In other news, the world is round.

Lib Dem collapse everywhere, particularly in Scotland isn't helping Labour.

Tories up 2% in Wales, Labour in the 40s, PC 21%, Con 20%...decent chance the tories come in 2nd.
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« Reply #112 on: May 05, 2011, 11:05:11 PM »

Would it be too big a stretch to say Labour not pushing the Tories too hard + Labour crapout in Scotland equals at least a push on the night for the Conservatives?



Just jumping in here, obviously looks like the Tories hanging tough while Labour pummels the LibDems, is that the developing story?

Seems to be the main narrative...a side narrative is that the Tories and Labour are arguing over a shifting set of goal posts of Labour gains in order to say whether Labour succeeded tonight.

In other news, the world is round.

Lib Dem collapse everywhere, particularly in Scotland isn't helping Labour.

Tories up 2% in Wales, Labour in the 40s, PC 21%, Con 20%...decent chance the tories come in 2nd.

The totals for locals are being distorted by the Tories taking as many seats off of the Liberal Democrats as they are losing to Labour.

Overall the Tory vote has held up. The problem for a general election is that most of the lost LD vote has gone to Labour.
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« Reply #113 on: May 06, 2011, 02:38:35 AM »
« Edited: May 06, 2011, 02:40:36 AM by Leftbehind »

I know results are patchy across the UK for Labour, but some of their swings in metropolitan Northern cities must be monumental if they've won some of the wards they're supposed to.

*Although I say patchy, the only place Labour seem to have done badly is Scotland and even there, their vote's largely remained static since '07.
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« Reply #114 on: May 06, 2011, 02:43:29 AM »

The totals for locals are being distorted by the Tories taking as many seats off of the Liberal Democrats as they are losing to Labour.

Overall the Tory vote has held up. The problem for a general election is that most of the lost LD vote has gone to Labour.

That's very much consistent with the recent polls: Tories still fairly close to their 2010 GE level, LDs losing lots of votes to Labour.
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« Reply #115 on: May 06, 2011, 02:46:10 AM »
« Edited: May 06, 2011, 02:48:56 AM by YorkshireLiberal »

It doesn't seem to have been posted on here yet that Labour won every single ward in Manchester:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/362/elections/5102/local_election_nominees_2011

In Liverpool, the Lib Dems held Woolton in spite of the earlier rumours, and also held Church, but they lost everything else.  The Greens and the Liberals both held the single seats they were defending.
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« Reply #116 on: May 06, 2011, 03:08:24 AM »

It doesn't seem to have been posted on here yet that Labour won every single ward in Manchester:
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/362/elections/5102/local_election_nominees_2011

Most of those aren't even vaguely close either.
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« Reply #117 on: May 06, 2011, 03:12:45 AM »

Am I interpreting correctly that this is a rather good result for Conservatives?
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« Reply #118 on: May 06, 2011, 03:16:48 AM »

Am I interpreting correctly that this is a rather good result for Conservatives?

Not really; overall councillor numbers (and other such abstractions) can be quite misleading: they're still losing seats to Labour and in places where doing so will cost them power locally. But they're doing very well against their coalition partners in most of southern England - better than some had predicted.

Of course it's not a classic mid-term disaster for them (even if it is for Team Yellow).
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« Reply #119 on: May 06, 2011, 03:19:02 AM »
« Edited: May 06, 2011, 03:20:59 AM by Leftbehind »

Pretty good, mainly because the collapse of Lib Dem vote to Labour benefited them in the South (one united anti-Tory vote collapses into two non-competitive votes etc) as much as it did for Labour in the North.

Liverpool's Lib Dem leader, in Wavertree results for 2007

Lib 70.0%
Lab 16.7%

and that's a Labour gain lol.
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« Reply #120 on: May 06, 2011, 03:49:05 AM »

Surreal scenes in Brum as... well...

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« Reply #121 on: May 06, 2011, 04:05:52 AM »

Congratulations to James McKay if what I've heard is right and he's won Harborne. And if the result there stands after the weirdness.
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« Reply #122 on: May 06, 2011, 05:32:20 AM »

Brighton and Hove: I've heard rumours (from a farily reputible, non-partisan source at the count) that the Greens might win a seat in Patcham - the safest Tory seat within Brighton Pavilion.
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« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2011, 06:13:28 AM »

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Wait, so where did all the other Labour gains in Lincoln come from? LDs and/or some indy group annihilated?
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« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2011, 06:18:26 AM »

Gains for both Greens and Labour in Brighton and Hove so far. Lib Dems wiped out.
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