Seriously democrats, this is getting out of hand.

[Gass3268]

There's only a handful of bitter people on this forum, so your message is a bit in vain if directed at us.

It's important to remember that a lot of people don't follow politics as closely as we do, and even among some of the most enthusiastic primary supporters in the country right now, the vast majority don't understand political geography like a lot of us do. When you combine that lack of awareness with the exponential increase in "opinion" (s[inks]tty blog posts) available on the web today, just about anyone can find plenty of material with which to delude themselves into thinking that this primary is still competitive.

With that being said, this primary isn't anywhere nearly as nasty as 2008. The primary difference is that social media is now about 100x more potent than it was then and it is amplifying everything. Twitter was just starting to gain traction in 2008. YouTube was seeing its first presidential cycle. And on and on and on...the only potential worry is how social media - already contributing almost exclusively to the rapid spread of disinformation and BS opinion - will prevent those primary wounds from healing like they have in all past election cycles.

Just wait until June and see what happens. At that point, the disinformation-fueled will have no more primaries on which to cling for hope; I suppose they could try to cling to the "superdelegates flipping" argument if Sanders' deficit < Clinton's # of superdelegates, but I'm really going to give (most of) them the benefit of the doubt that they're not that nutty.  

Yeah, this post nails it pretty much. The actual campaigns are far more civil than in 08, but in the past 8 years people have sorted themselves into their online echo chambers far more comfortably. For example, Reddit deluded themselves to the extent that they KNEW Bernie would win Arizona, then when he didn't the logical conclusion was that it must have been stolen by Hillary and the DNC. You know, even though the Republicans control the entire Arizona election system, and the lines weren't enough to change the eventual outcome anyway. But if anyone actually pointed out this reality, they'd be called a "corporate shill" and banned or whatever.

The online crap about the DNC and Clinton causing the mess in Arizona has to be one of the most stupidest things I've ever read.

[Gass3268]

Things still aren't as bad as 2008.

[Gass3268]

Things still aren't as bad as 2008.

Let's hope so.

You could hear it in Sanders speech tonight. It was more about defeating Donald Trump and figuring out a way to open up the Democratic Primary process.

[Gass3268]

Things still aren't as bad as 2008.

Let's hope so.

You could hear it in Sanders speech tonight.

You mean the part where he accused the Democratic of stealing from him the nomination?
Or the part where he denounced the "Bernie or Bust" nutjobs?

He never said the Democratic Party stole the nomination from him.

[Gass3268]

Sanders wins off the back of hipsters, angry white trust fund liberals and anti-establishment rural types who tossed a coin between him and Trump. That coalition will fall apart and Sanders will be begging for the $27ers to pay off his debts. I don't really see them as a force by 2020.

You don't win 20 states with just that type of collation. Sanders core supporters will be there in the future and reality (look at the exit polls of those under 30) we are the future of the Democratic Party.

[Gass3268]

Things still aren't as bad as 2008.

Let's hope so.

You could hear it in Sanders speech tonight.

You mean the part where he accused the Democratic of stealing from him the nomination?
Or the part where he denounced the "Bernie or Bust" nutjobs?

He never said the Democratic Party stole the nomination from him.

Then what's all this nonsense about the system being rigged and superdelegates, closed primaries, etc.?

Never said the system was rigged or even brought. Just said the he wasn't a fan of closed primaries and that the superdelegates should back him. Did we watch the same speech?

[Gass3268]

The retards who follow Bernie like he's some kind of messiah are (hopefully) going to form a suicide pact when all is said and done and they'll be yesterday's news.  His sane supporters will keep to Bernie's message regardless of who's president, and since millennials are the chief demographic for him, they will, inevitably, inherit the Democratic Party and decide how it should move going ahead.  The last generation of Democrats chose to go rightward; that won't be the case for the next generation.

What happened in Nevada is nothing short of an embarrassment and a stain to the party and to the movement.  But, hey, if Democrats survived 1968...

Minus the use of the word retard and the advocation of mass suicide, I agree with this statement.

[Gass3268]

Well, in three weeks (or possibly four), this will be over. Some of Sanders' most die-hard supporters might start a PUMA-like group, but it's not going to gain a lot of steam in an election where Donald Trump is the Republican. The negativity may seem strong this year, but it's largely a very vocal minority. It was worse on both sides in 2008.

Exactly, but don't let the Hillary Hacks know you think that.