Orlando CEO to employees: "If Obama gets reelected, I'll probably fire you"

[Wisconsin+17]

Exactly so. Unions tell people the same thing. If it's ok for the unions, I can't see why it would be wrong for businesses.

[pbrower2a]

Exactly so. Unions tell people the same thing. If it's ok for the unions, I can't see why it would be wrong for businesses.

Unions cannot get people fired for voting contrary to the union line.

There could of course be consequences of discriminatory behavior of a company if, for example, it prohibits  a vehicle with an Obama bumper sticker or a sticker with a "Rmoney" parody from being parked in the parking lot.

[Ty440]

Its just another way for a white corporation to keep suppress the voting rights of minority voters.  He views himself as a slave master who can control the lives of his illegal immigrant slaves.  I expect the workers to form a union and go on strike.  He'll be forced to make dresses out of his curtains.

What does this story have to do with race? Please tell me.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Sure they can. 

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As a teacher, I'm well aware of union intimidation - they keyed my car while I was still with the union. Now I'm a private school teacher.

[milhouse24]

Its just another way for a white corporation to keep suppress the voting rights of minority voters.  He views himself as a slave master who can control the lives of his illegal immigrant slaves.  I expect the workers to form a union and go on strike.  He'll be forced to make dresses out of his curtains.

What does this story have to do with race? Please tell me.

Its just another White CEO who is suppressing the rights of his most hispanic and immigrant hotel workforce.  The new slaves in America are the cheap labor of illegal immigrants, and the slaveowners are multi-national corporations seeking to exploit the poor and defenseless populations.  In addition, these multi-national corporations are polluting third world countries at alarming rates.  Do you wonder why your beloved apple Iphone is so cheap - because of cheap labor and no environmental regulations. 

[Badger]

what he said was purely agaisnt the law

No no no no, doing it is against the law....get it straight....PR stunt.

'PR stunt' in business implies good PR, George.

An alternative suggestion is someone who would build one of the largest houses in the country and unironically name it 'Versailles' just might be an unmitigated douche.

[GMantis]

I'm glad to know that voter intimidation by their employers is not a feature only of undeveloped democracies

[pbrower2a]

I'm glad to know that voter intimidation by their employers is not a feature only of undeveloped democracies

It could be a sign of a dying democracy -- one in which economic interests decide what is 'right' and 'wrong'.   

[Jacob]

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Sure they can. 

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As a teacher, I'm well aware of union intimidation - they keyed my car while I was still with the union. Now I'm a private school teacher.

Did that happen before or after you got kicked out of that other political forum that starts with an F and ends with a C? Maybe I should copy-paste some of your posts from that swamp?

[opebo]

I happen to think business should get the largest voice - but even if you don't, it still needs one.

The problem is, Konkee, that in a capitalist country 'business' - i.e., the rich - have the only voice.  Certainly I would like to see them all guillotined, so I'm a bit on the 'leftist' side, but failing that, this man should be liable for a criminal and civil proceeding for this.

[Northeast Rep Snowball]

Sure, lets hear those posts

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

what he said was purely agaisnt the law

No no no no, doing it is against the law....get it straight....PR stunt.

'PR stunt' in business implies good PR, George.
An alternative suggestion is someone who would build one of the largest houses in the country and unironically name it 'Versailles' just might be an unmitigated douche.

I wonder how sales are at Chick-Fil-A, Badg

[Jacob]

Sure, lets hear those posts

Confirm for me that it is within forum rules and I will be glad to pull the sheet off Mr. Kenobi. I know all about him from reading his right-wing posts from there. Dude is out there. Surprised anyone would hire him to teach children.

[Badger]

what he said was purely agaisnt the law

No no no no, doing it is against the law....get it straight....PR stunt.

'PR stunt' in business implies good PR, George.
An alternative suggestion is someone who would build one of the largest houses in the country and unironically name it 'Versailles' just might be an unmitigated douche.

I wonder how sales are at Chick-Fil-A, Badg

Oh come on, bro. Surely that's not a valid comparison. Chik-fil-A's stance would gather plenty of support from the traditional values types (and did). A walking parody of C. Montgomery Burns warning his largely working class employees they risk likely layoffs if Obama is reelected doesn't carry any positives (unless the business is hoping to land convention business from the Heritage Foundation or the Cato Institute).

[opebo]

As a teacher, I'm well aware of union intimidation - they keyed my car while I was still with the union. Now I'm a private school teacher.

Keying a car is not going to be a sufficient counter-force to the oppressor, I'm afraid, BK.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

what he said was purely agaisnt the law

No no no no, doing it is against the law....get it straight....PR stunt.

'PR stunt' in business implies good PR, George.
An alternative suggestion is someone who would build one of the largest houses in the country and unironically name it 'Versailles' just might be an unmitigated douche.

I wonder how sales are at Chick-Fil-A, Badg

Oh come on, bro. Surely that's not a valid comparison. Chik-fil-A's stance would gather plenty of support from the traditional values types (and did). A walking parody of C. Montgomery Burns warning his largely working class employees they risk likely layoffs if Obama is reelected doesn't carry any positives (unless the business is hoping to land convention business from the Heritage Foundation or the Cato Institute).

Really?  Did you ever hear of Westgate Resorts before this?  I never did.  Every rich pub knows about them now. 

[Badger]

Sure, lets hear those posts

Confirm for me that it is within forum rules and I will be glad to pull the sheet off Mr. Kenobi. I know all about him from reading his right-wing posts from there. Dude is out there. Surprised anyone would hire him to teach children.

Speaking as a fellow forum member, rather than a mod, I don't think that's necessary or entirely 100% appropriate. Everyone (including Ben) knows that he is indeed quite conservative (including Ben), and admittedly without knowing the full story I'm hard pressed to believe his car was keyed by a fellow teacher versus some snotty delinquent student. With that in mind, I don't think there's anything to prove. He contributes here well enough even i I sometimes disagree with him.

I'm a big believer in leaving the Forum away from outside world influence. My two cents....

[Badger]

what he said was purely agaisnt the law

No no no no, doing it is against the law....get it straight....PR stunt.

'PR stunt' in business implies good PR, George.
An alternative suggestion is someone who would build one of the largest houses in the country and unironically name it 'Versailles' just might be an unmitigated douche.

I wonder how sales are at Chick-Fil-A, Badg

Oh come on, bro. Surely that's not a valid comparison. Chik-fil-A's stance would gather plenty of support from the traditional values types (and did). A walking parody of C. Montgomery Burns warning his largely working class employees they risk likely layoffs if Obama is reelected doesn't carry any positives (unless the business is hoping to land convention business from the Heritage Foundation or the Cato Institute).

Really?  Did you ever hear of Westgate Resorts before this?  I never did.  Every rich pub knows about them now. 

Hmmmm. Decent point. But I'm still convinced he's not so much a publicity hound as just a 60+ year old version of Politico.

[後援会]

I'm glad to know that voter intimidation by their employers is not a feature only of undeveloped democracies

It could be a sign of a dying democracy -- one in which economic interests decide what is 'right' and 'wrong'.   

Sounds like the best type of democracy to me. I'd pick 1960's Japan over the Weimar Republic any day of the week.

[Badger]

I'm glad to know that voter intimidation by their employers is not a feature only of undeveloped democracies

It could be a sign of a dying democracy -- one in which economic interests decide what is 'right' and 'wrong'.   

Sounds like the best type of democracy to me. I'd pick 1960's Japan over the Weimar Republic any day of the week.

Um, there ARE other choices than those two "ideals".....

[後援会]

I'm glad to know that voter intimidation by their employers is not a feature only of undeveloped democracies

It could be a sign of a dying democracy -- one in which economic interests decide what is 'right' and 'wrong'.   

Sounds like the best type of democracy to me. I'd pick 1960's Japan over the Weimar Republic any day of the week.

Um, there ARE other choices than those two "ideals".....

To be quite fair, I can find very few governments that I would prefer over 1950's Japan.

[opebo]

To be quite fair, I can find very few governments that I would prefer over 1950's Japan.

Yeesh.  It got that way due to a brutal a$$-kicking and complete humiliation of its national ethos.

[Wisconsin+17]

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Oh, quite some time before. I got the zot there because I supported Santorum. Go figure.

[Jacob]

Sure, lets hear those posts

Confirm for me that it is within forum rules and I will be glad to pull the sheet off Mr. Kenobi. I know all about him from reading his right-wing posts from there. Dude is out there. Surprised anyone would hire him to teach children.

Speaking as a fellow forum member, rather than a mod, I don't think that's necessary or entirely 100% appropriate. Everyone (including Ben) knows that he is indeed quite conservative (including Ben), and admittedly without knowing the full story I'm hard pressed to believe his car was keyed by a fellow teacher versus some snotty delinquent student. With that in mind, I don't think there's anything to prove. He contributes here well enough even i I sometimes disagree with him.

I'm a big believer in leaving the Forum away from outside world influence. My two cents....

It isn't really outside world influence. His identity is unknown to me. How are his anonymous posts on other political forums irrelevant to his political posts on this political forum? There's no rational argument that I can think of against letting members view some of his posts. He isn't just right-wing. The guy makes Paul Ryan look like Jacob Javitz.

[Jacob]

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Oh, quite some time before. I got the zot there because I supported Santorum. Go figure.

Maybe thats why, and before that you supported Cain. But you were to the right of the average member there. The problem with it is that you people seem to actually believe that you are moderate. The Republican Party has moved so far to the right in recent years, while the Democratic Party has remained center-left. Republicans have tried to redefine the center as being located in the center-right, but the problem with that is that it defies political geography. This isn't a center-right country. I am center-left. I voted for Hillary in the primaries (and I'm black). You folks have nominated the most right-wing ticket since 1964, and save for Huntsman and Paul, Romney was the least extreme. But you guys are now far to the right of your hero, Reagan. He wouldn't be able to win a Republican primary these days. Nixon created the EPA and food stamps, and he supported universal health care.  Obama is Nixon with a D after his name and you folks act as if he's the love-child of Castro and Stalin. You are to the Republicans what the Greens are to us Democrats: a bad influence.