Margaret Thatcher dies at 87

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I would like to know the answer to this too. I don't think I've ever heard anything about Clement Attlee's funeral.

He had an ordinary funeral like basically other PM bar Churchill and (now) Thatcher.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

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[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

[You kip if you want to...]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

Glenda Jackson was by no means born into it and she was brought up in a part of the country particularly hurt by Mags.

(Also, of note to UK posters, I'd never have guessed that Dan Hodges was her son!)

[Khunanup]

You a Wirral man as well then Forward '12?

[Khunanup]

Need more of us on these forums!

It's also where Glenda Jackson if from which is why Forward's link to Frank Field's comments is so ironic. Frank Field is of course not originally from the Wirral.

[Pilchard]

Also, honest question, but did Harold Wilson do anything similar when Clement Attlee died? The 45-51 Labour government, after all, was as objectively groundbreaking as the 79-97 Tory government was.

I would like to know the answer to this too. I don't think I've ever heard anything about Clement Attlee's funeral.

I've had a look and tributes were made in the Commons after returning from the summer recess about two weeks after his death.

Not found any details about his funeral, but there was a memorial service during which his ashes were interred in Westminster Abbey. (video)

[BluegrassBlueVote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Tremendous.

Getting a good laugh out of these tributes I'm reading that place Thatcher's name alongside Attlee's and Churchill's. Hilarious.

[Phony Moderate]

Field's comments are strange. Hugo Chavez was also probably much better at pushing through radical reforms than both Blair and Brown. Does he admire him too?

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Typical celebrity turned politician

[You kip if you want to...]

Field's comments are strange. Hugo Chavez was also probably much better at pushing through radical reforms than both Blair and Brown. Does he admire him too?

Field was close friends with Thatcher though, don't forgot. Not to mention that he was one of the first on the Labour benches to fall out with GB and then Blair when he refused to promote him to cabinet.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Typical celebrity turned politician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

Glenda Jackson was by no means born into it and she was brought up in a part of the country particularly hurt by Mags.

(Also, of note to UK posters, I'd never have guessed that Dan Hodges was her son!)

Neither was Thatcher, or the businessmen who benefited under her? So, because Glenda Jackson was born poor, she gets to live in a nice house, which she rightfully earned by starring in excellent movies, but all the other capitalists are "cruel."

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Margaret Thatcher's father was a greengrocer, preacher, and Mayor of Grantham. Glenda Jackson's was a bricklayer. The divide between upper and middle is not the only one there is in the class system, especially in Britain.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Owner of a local chain of greengrocers and head of this that and everything else in Grantham for more than a couple of years. A big fish in a small pond, so to speak. A very small pond, really, but that's not what matters to people like that (or what was passed on to his daughter).

[You kip if you want to...]

Typical celebrity turned politician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

Glenda Jackson was by no means born into it and she was brought up in a part of the country particularly hurt by Mags.

(Also, of note to UK posters, I'd never have guessed that Dan Hodges was her son!)

Neither was Thatcher, or the businessmen who benefited under her? So, because Glenda Jackson was born poor, she gets to live in a nice house, which she rightfully earned by starring in excellent movies, but all the other capitalists are "cruel."

How the hell are you getting that from what I said? I wasn't comparing Glenda Jackson to Margaret Thatcher. All I'm saying is that she's not particularly sycophantic towards Thatcher because she's seen the effect that her government had over vast sections of the country.

[dead0man]

The double standard by the Right re: Chavez and Thatcher is utterly ridiculous.

On Chavez: "Good riddance to the evil Commie dictator!"
On Thatcher: "Please have class and respect the dead!"

F-ck that.

Agreed 100%

(except I think you have the details backwards....there were only a couple of poeple bashing on Chavez and the thread was only 7 pages long.  You had to get to the third page to find the second person hating on him.  I'm pretty sure there were more people bitching about "respect for the dead" than there were people bashing the dead....not quite the same in this thread is it?  But yes, double standards suck...they're just harder to see when you and your friends are doing it.)

There are more people on the left than on the right here, simple.

Don't try and tell them that, they will fall all over themselves denying it.  At best you'll get a "slight" left lean.  The people that think (for whatever reason) that this is an international message board will tell you it leans right.

[You kip if you want to...]

The Rt. Hon. Balding Welsh Git can't go the funeral. He's got another funeral to go to on the day. Doubt he'd want to go anyway.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/04/11/lord-kinnock-margaret-thatcher_n_3059473.html?1365677541&utm_hp_ref=uk

[Antonio the Sixth]

The double standard by the Right re: Chavez and Thatcher is utterly ridiculous.

On Chavez: "Good riddance to the evil Commie dictator!"
On Thatcher: "Please have class and respect the dead!"

F-ck that.

Agreed 100%

(except I think you have the details backwards....there were only a couple of poeple bashing on Chavez and the thread was only 7 pages long.  You had to get to the third page to find the second person hating on him.  I'm pretty sure there were more people bitching about "respect for the dead" than there were people bashing the dead....not quite the same in this thread is it?  But yes, double standards suck...they're just harder to see when you and your friends are doing it.)

There are more people on the left than on the right here, simple.

Don't try and tell them that, they will fall all over themselves denying it.  At best you'll get a "slight" left lean.  The people that think (for whatever reason) that this is an international message board will tell you it leans right.

This is an international message board, since it has a sizable share of non-American posters.

[Leftbehind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

So becoming rich but wanting an equal society anyway because you've known what it's like not to be is considered hypocritical to you, but a woman who professed to roll back the state (in actuality just subsidies and support for the working class) whilst centralising power and proscribing which videos could be watched and precisely what schools were allowed to (or in this case couldn't) teach on homosexuality isn't. Oh and supporting authoritarian dictators lol.  

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

So being rich but wanting an equal society is considered hypocritical to you, but a woman who professed to roll back the state (in actuality just subsidies and support for the working class) whilst centralising power and proscribing which videos could be watched and precisely what schools were allowed to (or in this case couldn't) teach on homosexuality isn't. Oh and support authoritarian dictators lol. 

BUT THEY WERE PRO-FREE MARKET!!!!1111

[Leftbehind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

So being rich but wanting an equal society is considered hypocritical to you, but a woman who professed to roll back the state (in actuality just subsidies and support for the working class) whilst centralising power and proscribing which videos could be watched and precisely what schools were allowed to (or in this case couldn't) teach on homosexuality isn't. Oh and support authoritarian dictators lol.  

BUT THEY WERE PRO-FREE MARKET!!!!1111

The people were FREE to live in abject misery and fear!  

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

So becoming rich but wanting an equal society anyway because you've known what it's like not to be is considered hypocritical to you, but a woman who professed to roll back the state (in actuality just subsidies and support for the working class) whilst centralising power and proscribing which videos could be watched and precisely what schools were allowed to (or in this case couldn't) teach on homosexuality isn't. Oh and supporting authoritarian dictators lol.  

So, when is Glenda Jackson gonna give up 83% of her annual earnings? Tell me, do you personally think you are entitled to healthcare primarily funded with money from Glenda Jackson’s wallet?

[Leftbehind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

So becoming rich but wanting an equal society anyway because you've known what it's like not to be is considered hypocritical to you, but a woman who professed to roll back the state (in actuality just subsidies and support for the working class) whilst centralising power and proscribing which videos could be watched and precisely what schools were allowed to (or in this case couldn't) teach on homosexuality isn't. Oh and supporting authoritarian dictators lol.  

So, when is Glenda Jackson gonna give up 83% of her annual earnings? Tell me, do you personally think you are entitled to healthcare primarily funded with money from Glenda Jackson’s wallet?

Probably when she adopts the laughable notion that voluntary charity is the best way to redistribute wealth and help the struggling working classes despite its complete failure to do just that in Victorian times. As for healthcare - absolutely, and she probably does to.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8

I loved the shout "we can't take it" from the Tory bench. Hard to take the truth indeed.

And the Speaker's reaction to fake outrage, priceless.

Typical celebrity turned politician hypocrite is hypocritical. Maybe when Glenda Jackson moves into a council house and gives her Oscar award to a homeless person I will take her seriously. At least George Galloway and Gerry Adams seem sincere in there thrashings.

So becoming rich but wanting an equal society anyway because you've known what it's like not to be is considered hypocritical to you, but a woman who professed to roll back the state (in actuality just subsidies and support for the working class) whilst centralising power and proscribing which videos could be watched and precisely what schools were allowed to (or in this case couldn't) teach on homosexuality isn't. Oh and supporting authoritarian dictators lol.  

So, when is Glenda Jackson gonna give up 83% of her annual earnings? Tell me, do you personally think you are entitled to healthcare primarily funded with money from Glenda Jackson’s wallet?

Probably when she adopts the laughable notion that voluntary charity is the best way to redistribute wealth and help the struggling working classes despite its complete failure to do just that in Victorian times. As for healthcare - absolutely, and she probably does to.

As for healthcare - absolutely, and she probably does to.

So, you think the upper 1% should pay for your needs. In other words, you are a contemptible parasite. It is not an unfair idea for a national sales tax or flat income tax that puts all people in the same bracket to cover a national healthcare plan. It is unfair for the wealthy people at the top to pay for your healthcare because you have not earned the money they have earned in life. Everyone has one basic thing that makes them equal-your natural instinct to make a profit if you choose to follow it.  The fact that you support the redistribution of wealth in order to save your own money proves this instinct.