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« on: October 06, 2016, 02:19:40 PM »

Discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2016, 02:20:39 PM »

Andrew Jackson.
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2016, 02:21:53 PM »

Grover, and all the Democrats before him.
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« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2016, 02:38:43 PM »

All before Carter.
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« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2016, 02:44:40 PM »

Jackson would surely be a Bernie Bro today. I can see James Madison supporting Clinton, the rest probably wouldn't care for Clinton or Trump, specifically Trumps Protectionism.
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« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2016, 02:45:08 PM »


LBJ wouldn't endorse Hillary? They're both war hawks who prioritize expanding health care and other entitlements.
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2016, 03:52:25 PM »


FDR, Truman, Kennedy, and LBJ would all endorse Hillary.
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2016, 03:54:03 PM »

Woodrow Wilson
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2016, 03:54:18 PM »

Grover, and all the Democrats before him.

Sensible and responsible women do not want to vote. The relative positions to be assumed by men and women in the working out of our civilization were assigned long ago by a higher intelligence. - Grover Cleveland
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2016, 04:23:03 PM »

Grover, and all the Democrats before him.

Sensible and responsible women do not want to vote. The relative positions to be assumed by men and women in the working out of our civilization were assigned long ago by a higher intelligence. - Grover Cleveland

You just prooved him right. He said Cleveland would refuse to endorse Hillary, and that quote prooves he wouldn't.
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2016, 04:30:00 PM »

Jackson would surely be a Bernie Bro today. I can see James Madison supporting Clinton, the rest probably wouldn't care for Clinton or Trump, specifically Trumps Protectionism.

Madison wasn't a Democrat, they didn't exist until the 1820's.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2016, 08:17:01 PM »

I can see LBJ dying of a massive coronary or having a massive stroke after learning  about gay marriage and the trans gendered.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2016, 02:28:37 AM »


LBJ wouldn't endorse Hillary? They're both war hawks who prioritize expanding health care and other entitlements.

LBJ did a lot & probably more than any1 not named Hillary - Medicare, Medicaid, Food stamps n I could go on. Hillary hasn't done anything great about healthcare as Senator, 1st Lady or SOS & she won't do much now either.

ON the topic - Good chance for anyone above Carter, FDR for sure!
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2016, 04:23:02 AM »

All these before Woodrow Wilson. Wilson likely would, but I'm not sure a hundered percent. The ones since, FDR, Truman, JFK and LBJ would of course support her. FDR may have supported Bernie in the primary, but he would be with her now.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2016, 05:32:16 AM »

FDR may have supported Bernie in the primary, but he would be with her now.

FDR was probably to the left of Sanders in actual policy terms but if we view both of those within the context of their times then Sanders is obviously well to the left of FDR. Bring FDR back and he'd almost certainly be a big Hillary supporter from the beginning of the primaries, even if he had quiet reservations.

Then you can look at losing nominees. George McGovern is often cited as the most left-wing major party nominee ever, but he wasn't that much different to many other Democratic senators of his day and was running against a Republican incumbent who was keen on price controls. Sanders stands out more today than McGovern did in his day. McGovern actually endorsed Wes Clark in 2004 IIRC.

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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2016, 07:23:18 AM »

Grover, and all the Democrats before him.

Sensible and responsible women do not want to vote. The relative positions to be assumed by men and women in the working out of our civilization were assigned long ago by a higher intelligence. - Grover Cleveland

You just prooved him right. He said Cleveland would refuse to endorse Hillary, and that quote prooves he wouldn't.

....I think that might've been the point?
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2016, 08:19:19 AM »

Jackson would surely be a Bernie Bro today. I can see James Madison supporting Clinton, the rest probably wouldn't care for Clinton or Trump, specifically Trumps Protectionism.

Madison wasn't a Democrat, they didn't exist until the 1820's.
He supported the Democrats later in his life.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2016, 11:17:05 AM »

All these before Woodrow Wilson. Wilson likely would, but I'm not sure a hundered percent. The ones since, FDR, Truman, JFK and LBJ would of course support her. FDR may have supported Bernie in the primary, but he would be with her now.

FDR would have supported HRC in the primary on the basis of foreign policy.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2016, 11:21:34 AM »

Jackson would surely be a Bernie Bro today. I can see James Madison supporting Clinton, the rest probably wouldn't care for Clinton or Trump, specifically Trumps Protectionism.

Wouldn't he be a crazy right-winger by our standards today, opposition to paper money, central banks, and all? It's just hard to put people from 100+ years ago in a modern political context so I'm going to stick to modern presidents.

I could see Truman being a Sanders supporter and maybe crossing over to Trump in the general. Other than that all the 20th century Dem presidents would get behind Clinton.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2016, 01:56:40 PM »


This, can't see many pols in either party being cool with a female President prior to 1976.
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« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2016, 02:41:36 PM »

Endorsers: Cleveland (very very reluctantly, only after Gary Johnson's implosion. trump would be waaay to unacceptable and threatening for him not to though), any New Dealer and onwards.

Refusers: Buchanan, Wilson

trump supporters: All Jacksonians.
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« Reply #21 on: October 07, 2016, 04:18:11 PM »

Grover, and all the Democrats before him.

Sensible and responsible women do not want to vote. The relative positions to be assumed by men and women in the working out of our civilization were assigned long ago by a higher intelligence. - Grover Cleveland

You just prooved him right. He said Cleveland would refuse to endorse Hillary, and that quote prooves he wouldn't.

I was agreeing with him, Sherlock.

Btw, it's "proved" not "prooved".
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