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Keystone Phil
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« on: July 28, 2005, 04:02:31 PM »

I’m Keystone Phil and I approve this message


There are so many extraordinary things about the second district.


Whether I’m on the banks of the Ohio River….





…enjoying a night at the Inner Harbor…..





….taking a walk through Northeast Philadelphia’s Pennypack Park…




…or stopping by Charleston….




I am amazed at how much we have to offer to Atlasia. I am thrilled to see how we are one people, working hard everyday for what is best for our families. For a district that offers so much to others, this district deserves someone who will offer himself to represent every single voter to the very best of his ability and nothing less.

I think I am that candidate.



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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2005, 04:08:54 PM »

THe most extraordinary thing is that in a couple of months it is going to be regerrymandered into something totally different, but EQUALY EXTRAORDINARY ^__^.

I will fight to keep the district as is. This really is one of the most diverse and interesting places in Atlasia and if elected, you can count on me to preserve it.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2005, 04:09:41 PM »

"One candidate"?  Sir, I'm going to have to alert the police to the fact that you have murdered LiberalPA, as there were two candidates last I checked. Tongue

I believe that I am the one candidate who is best suited to serve the people of this district.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2005, 04:12:45 PM »

I'd have to argue that D3 is more diverse. We go from Wisconsin and Michigan to Kansas and Texas. Kiki

We go from people like myself to Akno to Colin to Al. That's got you beat.  Smiley
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2005, 04:44:13 PM »


Why whatever do you mean, Mr. Ford?  Wink
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2005, 10:42:14 PM »

"One candidate"?  Sir, I'm going to have to alert the police to the fact that you have murdered LiberalPA, as there were two candidates last I checked. Tongue

I believe that I am the one candidate who is best suited to serve the people of this district.
I disagree. LiberalPA did not quit the forum after he lost an election.

I didn't know that I quit the forum. That's news to me.

What happened was that I quit Atlasian politics not because I lost but because of other personal matters. If I quit because I lost, I would have quit a year ago after my two failed Senate candidacies. But I'm glad you can just show up and tell me what happened.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2005, 12:28:24 AM »


I should have said politics. And you're welcome.

And you still wouldn't have known the whole story. Ah, the ignorance...
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2005, 12:32:55 AM »


I should have said politics. And you're welcome.

And you still wouldn't have known the whole story. Ah, the ignorance...
well, hes been here long enough and participates enough to know what happened Phil. you got pinned with scandals (which were niether proven nor dis-proven) the stress built up, and so you left. its not a hard story to follow KPhil Wink

So why did he get it wrong?

I didn't leave because I lost. Maybe you should read his statements before defending what he's saying. Once again, the ignorance...
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2005, 12:38:11 AM »


I should have said politics. And you're welcome.

And you still wouldn't have known the whole story. Ah, the ignorance...
well, hes been here long enough and participates enough to know what happened Phil. you got pinned with scandals (which were niether proven nor dis-proven) the stress built up, and so you left. its not a hard story to follow KPhil Wink

So why did he get it wrong?

I didn't leave because I lost. Maybe you should read his statements before defending what he's saying. Once again, the ignorance...
you like that word, dont you Phil? he never said "you left because you lost" you left when pinned with a scandal. i think you remember when i got pinned with a scandal about 3 seconds into joining fantasy politics. i stayed calm, told the truth, and everyone understood. i couldve just left.

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Now, that was a jab at me, LiberalPA. Once again, get the story right before commenting. Thanks.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2005, 12:41:19 AM »

NOTE: im not attacking you KPhil, im simply trying to explain what Casey is trying to say to you, since there was a clear miscommunication (seriously)

Read what I posted and then you'll see.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2005, 12:50:12 AM »


I should have said politics. And you're welcome.

And you still wouldn't have known the whole story. Ah, the ignorance...
well, hes been here long enough and participates enough to know what happened Phil. you got pinned with scandals (which were niether proven nor dis-proven) the stress built up, and so you left. its not a hard story to follow KPhil Wink

Once again, the ignorance...
And the pot calls the kettle black.

I was referring to the fact that you left, criticized people for attacking you for being involved in a scandal, then returned, and said you are the candidate for everyone....

And good night, LiberalPA.

No, you clearly stated that I left because I lost and I don't see how my leaving means that I'm not the candidate for everyone.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2005, 12:52:08 AM »

wow. full of negative tonight, arent we? maybe we should get some sleep. that will pretty much stop this argument in its tracks. im going to take one more look around and then hit the sack. BTW i think Reese was trying to keep his comment simple. had he given a complete analysis of the whole situation, it would have been a very long, very annoying to read post. we all need sleep. at least i do anyway. good night KPhil. and good night, Max Power.

I love when people are wrong and then try to cover it up with "You should get some sleep."

Oh, oh! And then I like the line, "Casey would have give more analysis." I mean, this wasn't clear what he said and then you defended him not knowing the whole story?
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2005, 12:56:59 AM »


Great way of going completely off subject with something not related to Atlasian politics!
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2005, 01:00:40 AM »

wow. full of negative tonight, arent we? maybe we should get some sleep. that will pretty much stop this argument in its tracks. im going to take one more look around and then hit the sack. BTW i think Reese was trying to keep his comment simple. had he given a complete analysis of the whole situation, it would have been a very long, very annoying to read post. we all need sleep. at least i do anyway. good night KPhil. and good night, Max Power.

I love when people are wrong and then try to cover it up with "You should get some sleep."

Oh, oh! And then I like the line, "Casey would have give more analysis." I mean, this wasn't clear what he said and then you defended him not knowing the whole story?

Phil, really, just some objective advice... it doesn't really look good or impressive when you harshly argue every single point made against you to the death.  Rather, it really only serves to add weight to the claims being made if people perceive you as feeling that they deserve tons of attention - they'll begin to wonder why you're giving it so much of your time.  I've always personally found that really stupid claims are best thwarted simply by turning them into a joke.  It's very hard to dislike someone who makes you laugh, and it makes the claim lose a ton of credibility if you're successful.

I think you'd do better if you learned to identify what's worth your time and what really isn't.  It's okay not to give a detailed analysis of why every single claim against you is false, really.

Just some objective advice, as I said.

When someone takes a shot at me and does not have the correct information, I will respond. Everyone can clearly see that Casey mistakenly blamed my departure on my losing of an election. That's wrong. Instead of owning up to it, instead of admitting he's wrong, he goes off topic and tries to change what he said.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2005, 01:01:45 AM »

wow. full of negative tonight, arent we? maybe we should get some sleep. that will pretty much stop this argument in its tracks. im going to take one more look around and then hit the sack. BTW i think Reese was trying to keep his comment simple. had he given a complete analysis of the whole situation, it would have been a very long, very annoying to read post. we all need sleep. at least i do anyway. good night KPhil. and good night, Max Power.

I love when people are wrong and then try to cover it up with "You should get some sleep."

Oh, oh! And then I like the line, "Casey would have give more analysis." I mean, this wasn't clear what he said and then you defended him not knowing the whole story?
youre going really spastic now KPhil. you should really go to sleep, or stop posting for the night, or something.

Thanks for dodging the point, again.

Can you do me one favor and then this whole situation can end? Admit that you did not know what Casey was saying and that he in fact did blame my departure on my losing of the election.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2005, 01:02:26 AM »

Well, if you're the candidate for everyone, why would you say something mean and nasty like that to BRTD? That's not what a candidate for everyone would do.

This has absolutely nothing to do with that.
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2005, 01:05:50 AM »

wow. full of negative tonight, arent we? maybe we should get some sleep. that will pretty much stop this argument in its tracks. im going to take one more look around and then hit the sack. BTW i think Reese was trying to keep his comment simple. had he given a complete analysis of the whole situation, it would have been a very long, very annoying to read post. we all need sleep. at least i do anyway. good night KPhil. and good night, Max Power.

I love when people are wrong and then try to cover it up with "You should get some sleep."

Oh, oh! And then I like the line, "Casey would have give more analysis." I mean, this wasn't clear what he said and then you defended him not knowing the whole story?
youre going really spastic now KPhil. you should really go to sleep, or stop posting for the night, or something.

Thanks for dodging the point, again.

Can you do me one favor and then this whole situation can end? Admit that you did not know what Casey was saying and that he in fact did blame my departure on my losing of the election.
you know KPhil, we can back and forth all night: you saying "youre dodging the point" and me saying "you should probably get some sleep". but that would be childish. so ill you argue with yourself. Wink

You still can't admit that you're wrong. You didn't bother to read what he said. Such ashame you can't own up to your mistakes.

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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2005, 01:08:58 AM »

When someone takes a shot at me and does not have the correct information, I will respond. Everyone can clearly see that Casey mistakenly blamed my departure on my losing of an election. That's wrong. Instead of owning up to it, instead of admitting he's wrong, he goes off topic and tries to change what he said.

Well, your call.  I'm just saying that when people wake up and see you arguing this one point for six or seven pages, they're not likely to be impressed, and it's in your power to stop this debate and cast it aside as stupid at any time.

What's stupid is that LiberalPA can't admit he made a mistake.
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2005, 01:11:10 AM »

When someone takes a shot at me and does not have the correct information, I will respond. Everyone can clearly see that Casey mistakenly blamed my departure on my losing of an election. That's wrong. Instead of owning up to it, instead of admitting he's wrong, he goes off topic and tries to change what he said.

Well, your call.  I'm just saying that when people wake up and see you arguing this one point for six or seven pages, they're not likely to be impressed, and it's in your power to stop this debate and cast it aside as stupid at any time.

What's stupid is that LiberalPA can't admit he made a mistake.
lets not get name calling here, KPhil. and im not going to admit to a mistake i didnt make. instead im going to take the advice of Gabu and end this. Now.

You said he didn't blame my departure on the election yet he clearly did. Must I quote it again? You made a mistake - Own up to it!
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2005, 01:11:54 AM »

"One candidate"?  Sir, I'm going to have to alert the police to the fact that you have murdered LiberalPA, as there were two candidates last I checked. Tongue

I believe that I am the one candidate who is best suited to serve the people of this district.
I disagree. LiberalPA did not quit the forum after he lost an election.


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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2005, 01:14:11 AM »

you got pinned with scandals (which were niether proven nor dis-proven) the stress built up, and so you left.
How was it never proven?  Phil and Alcon admitted to an effort to invalidate some votes; what they did not admit was that it was a scandal.  Phil even had the balls to say that what he did wasn't unethical.  (I'm still trying to figure that one out.)

Also, to clear this up, yes Phil did quit in the middle of the electing citing that he was going to lose.  From the horse's mouth:

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I said I was quitting the race because I was going to lose! I never said I was leaving fantasy politics because I was going to lose. I was leaving because I was tired of being associated with these stupid scandals.
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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2005, 01:18:06 AM »

im not going to admit to a mistake i didnt make. instead im going to take the advice of Gabu and end this. Now.

this is my last post in this thread, KPhil.  i dont need to quote myself, but you know what i said. i explained myself a page or two back, and i dont plan on doing it a million times

Good Night, KPhil. Im going to bed. we both need the sleep and you know it go ahead, Phil pull the repeatative "youre covering up with things like 'go to sleep'" defense again.

Yep. You avoided it...again.
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2005, 04:27:48 PM »

Once again, we see the hughento attack machine in full swing. Then people wonder why others get fed up with Atlasian politics.

As for what Akno said, I think Senators have serious power on this issue when it comes to lobbying the Governors. I'll do everything in my power.
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2005, 04:37:47 PM »

I think Senators have serious power on this issue when it comes to lobbying the Governors. I'll do everything in my power.

This power was in full display when I was able to retain my district.

Oh, wait...

(That said, I didn't really lobby either way)

Ok, you know what? Elected officials can have the power to influence the decisions of other elected officials but that's obviously not going over well. I apologize for trying to stand up for my district even when I don't have a vote in what happens.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2005, 05:01:43 PM »

As for what Akno said, I think Senators have serious power on this issue when it comes to lobbying the Governors. I'll do everything in my power.

Er, no... why would senators have any more power over that than private citizens?  It's not as if the governors somehow feel threatened by the fact that you're an elected official.  They do generally try to make it so that two incumbent senators don't have to face off against each other, but beyond that, I can't think of any sway senators have, really.  Why would we have any sway?  The federal government is completely detached from the regional governments.

Feel free to lobby all you want, but you're not gonna find being a senator any different than being a private citizen.

The federal government is completely detached from the regional governments yet the regions decide how we are made up? Yeah, that makes sense. To suggest that we can't have an influence of this is silly.

And, Gabu, when you're not attack me you're...well...still attacking me. I made it clear that I'll do all I can and at this point, I think that's more than what any private citizen is doing.
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