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Question: What kind of car do you drive? What is your political orientation?
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Non-Automatic / Left
 
#2
Non-Automatic / Centre
 
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Non-Automatic / Right
 
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Automatic / Left
 
#5
Automatic / Centre
 
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dead0man
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« on: June 14, 2016, 03:11:33 PM »

I'll never understand the Euro obsession with manuals (stick shift)... Driving using one foot and two hands on the wheel is inherently safer.  Do you know what happens if your wheels lock up on ice and you don't push the clutch in in time?  Your engine dies and you have no power steering or power brakes.  That's always great as you careen off the road into a ditch or another vehicle.

All of the benefits that manual drivers tend to spout are subjective... "It saves fuel"...if you drive it like a grandma!  "You have more control"...over what?  Which specific gear you're in as you drive around the round about?

I've driven both and realized automatics really are just better.

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Back in the 90s and earlier, they got better mileage no matter how you drove.  Now-a-days there isn't much difference with autos being better often times.

re:the snow/ice.  Yes, if you don't have anti-lock brakes and lock 'em up on the ice without pressing the clutch your engine might die.  But like the third think you learn when learning stick shift is to press the clutch in when you brake heavy.  And once the clutch is in you're slightly more likely to catch it vs an auto.  Manual's are also better cornering in the snow 'cause they won't shift on their own and fark up the balance of the car...granted if you're that close to the edge of traction you're probably going to fast and are going to lose control eventually anyway, but in theory....


Really, the reason I prefer manual to auto is that I feel more "in touch" with the car.  I enjoy driving.  Most people it's an annoying task one must do to get by in life, like grocery shopping and doing the laundry.  You guys can have your autos and distance yourself from the process as much as possible (self driving cars for the masses is right around the corner), I'll keep having a good time.  (if this asshat driving an automatic would ever finish passing this guy)


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dead0man
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2016, 03:40:51 PM »

I will only ever buy a car that has:
4 doors
naturally-aspirated engine
180-250 bhp
RWD
manual transmission
European or American make

I think the only car sold in America that fits that description right now is the ATS.
I'm guessing you meant "the only car MADE in America that...." because of all those MBs and BMWs and such.  It's sad that you can't get a RWD performance sedan with a stick that's made in the US.  There is no good reason not to.  I can't figure out why they can't make (and sell) a small, RWD sports car either.  By most accounts that Pontiac/Saturn thing from a few years ago was a decent car, but they only sold them for a few years and never sold all that many of them.  Meanwhile there are well over a million Miata's on the road.
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dead0man
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 05:14:07 PM »

I totally missed the NA part and had no idea you couldn't get a stick in a Benz....meh, junk fancy cars anyway.
You don't like forced induction?  I've owned a couple of turbo'd cars (87 RX7 and 00 Golf 1.8T) and kind of enjoyed the way boost built up.  It was especially.....dramatic with rotary, not much below 4k, but get up about 5k and your ass is planted.  The lag from the drop of the foot to the rush of power can be a bit annoying.  Especially when you're already at speed and want to accelerate decently without dropping a gear.

I've spent most of my days driving underpowered economy cars, rotaries and now the Miata, so I'm accustomed to down shifting all the damn time Smiley
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dead0man
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 05:20:55 PM »

and American cars are pretty damn good these days.  Even the Chrysler 200 I rented last week wasn't horrible.  There was a lot to not like....I cracked my head on the door frame like 10 times, a couple of times very hard.  There is like 2 feet of space between the top of the seat and the door frame.  There isn't enough space in the driver's seat for large people....and again, I'm used to driving tiny cars.  I've owned a Chevy Sprint (the Geo Metro before there was Geo) and a Subaru Justy (also 3 cyl) and had more room behind the wheel.  It did get good MPG (over 30) but not as good as those two...of course I got speeding ticket going 97, those old things topped out in the mid 80s....with a tail wind going down hill.

<he's Angusing, pull it back dead0>

Yeah, but it wasn't a bad car for a Chrysler/Fiat.  The fit and finish was decent, the materials seemed of quality plastic and metal.
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