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« on: June 06, 2018, 09:35:31 AM »

https://www.scribd.com/document/381154820/PPP-poll-of-TX-SEN-for-Giffords

Cruz 48
O'Rourke 42
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2018, 09:40:49 AM »

Still Likely R.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2018, 09:58:05 AM »

Lean to likely R. But closer to likely. Beto can win this, but it's far more likely not to happen than to happen.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2018, 10:08:24 AM »

Going out on a limb and saying Lean R. An improvement from the previous poll.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2018, 10:36:17 AM »

PPP IS such an arm of the Democrat Party, that I pay little attention to them till the September before a November election.  By September they understand their credibility is on the line.

Below is an article setting out the polls in the Cotton Pryor race in 2014.  You will notice that PPP’s numbers do not get in line with the other polls until September.   ALWAYS REMEMBER PPP IS FIRST AND ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT POLLSTER.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arkansas,_2014
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2018, 10:40:09 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 10:42:13 AM »

PPP IS such an arm of the Democrat Party, that I pay little attention to them till the September before a November election.  By September they understand their credibility is on the line.

Below is an article setting out the polls in the Cotton Pryor race in 2014.  You will notice that PPP’s numbers do not get in line with the other polls until September.   ALWAYS REMEMBER PPP IS FIRST AND ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT POLLSTER.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arkansas,_2014


The "Democrat Party" doesn't exist.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 10:45:43 AM »

I think this will be the final margin, but the race is probably at Cruz + 8 right now.

Also lol at PPP thinking gun control is the issue that will bring dems to victory in TX.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 10:50:29 AM »

PPP IS such an arm of the Democrat Party, that I pay little attention to them till the September before a November election.  By September they understand their credibility is on the line.

Below is an article setting out the polls in the Cotton Pryor race in 2014.  You will notice that PPP’s numbers do not get in line with the other polls until September.   ALWAYS REMEMBER PPP IS FIRST AND ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT POLLSTER.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arkansas,_2014

PPP is no more a "evul Democrat pollster" than, say, your beloved Reuters or Rasmussen are "Republican pollsters".

Anyway, this looks like the final margin, give or take a couple points.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 10:51:07 AM »

#CruzUnder50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still Likely R, though. Cruz probably wins by high single digits.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 11:07:20 AM »

PPP IS such an arm of the Democrat Party, that I pay little attention to them till the September before a November election.  By September they understand their credibility is on the line.

Below is an article setting out the polls in the Cotton Pryor race in 2014.  You will notice that PPP’s numbers do not get in line with the other polls until September.   ALWAYS REMEMBER PPP IS FIRST AND ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT POLLSTER.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arkansas,_2014



I see that PPP has your blood pressure raised.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 11:19:01 AM »

PPP IS such an arm of the Democrat Party, that I pay little attention to them till the September before a November election.  By September they understand their credibility is on the line.

Below is an article setting out the polls in the Cotton Pryor race in 2014.  You will notice that PPP’s numbers do not get in line with the other polls until September.   ALWAYS REMEMBER PPP IS FIRST AND ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT POLLSTER.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arkansas,_2014



I see that PPP has your blood pressure raised.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 11:28:14 AM »

Once again, within range of expectations. Cruz will likely win, but it will probably be the closest statewide race for a Republican in Texas in more than 15 years.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2018, 11:42:40 AM »

PPP IS such an arm of the Democrat Party, that I pay little attention to them till the September before a November election.  By September they understand their credibility is on the line.

Below is an article setting out the polls in the Cotton Pryor race in 2014.  You will notice that PPP’s numbers do not get in line with the other polls until September.   ALWAYS REMEMBER PPP IS FIRST AND ALWAYS A DEMOCRAT POLLSTER.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Arkansas,_2014

PPP is no more a "evul Democrat pollster" than, say, your beloved Reuters or Rasmussen are "Republican pollsters".

Anyway, this looks like the final margin, give or take a couple points.

This Wikipedia article describes the firm as a Democrat firm:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Policy_Polling

I do not think they are evil.  I do tend to ignore them till September.  But I always agree they should be in the RCP AVERAGE.




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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2018, 12:13:28 PM »

Once again, within range of expectations. Cruz will likely win, but it will probably be the closest statewide race for a Republican in Texas in more than 15 years.
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2018, 02:42:30 PM »

The difference between PPP and a lot of other partisan pollsters is that PPP has a record of excellence that simply cannot easily be disputed.
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2018, 02:43:07 PM »

Q 11-13 and 15-17 and yet Cruz still wins after that, tells you all you need to know here.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2018, 03:41:14 PM »

Q 11-13 and 15-17 and yet Cruz still wins after that, tells you all you need to know here.

I don't think PPP realizes that gun control is not the best strategy to winning in TX lol

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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2018, 06:59:29 PM »

IMHO, if things go worse because of Trump's tariffs, I would rate this race Lean R or Toss-up due to the fact that an important part of Texas' economy depends on trade with Mexico and to Cruz's support to the construction of Trump's border wall, which could also restrict trade with Mexico.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/trump-trade-democrats-midterms/index.html
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2018, 07:09:08 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2018, 11:25:01 PM »

Likely R, closer to Lean than Safe. O'Rourke can make up some of that ground before November but he doesn't have a ton of time and Texas doesn't have a ton of voters to swing.
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« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2018, 12:27:18 AM »

I find it interesting that 52% of respondents think gun laws should be stronger. Then again, 49% have a favorable view of the NRA.. Tongue
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« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2018, 01:39:36 AM »

Likely R, closer to Lean than Safe. O'Rourke can make up some of that ground before November but he doesn't have a ton of time and Texas doesn't have a ton of voters to swing.

The question is the strategy. I think he should focus on suburbs, where Hillary came close to winning.
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« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2018, 07:22:39 AM »

Well I think I'm ready to stop being a hack and move this in my mental ratings to likely R now Tongue

(though I still expect the gap to widen in a few months but we'll see)
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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2018, 10:02:50 AM »

Likely R, closer to Lean than Safe. O'Rourke can make up some of that ground before November but he doesn't have a ton of time and Texas doesn't have a ton of voters to swing.

Lyin' Ted is favored, but not heavily so, and he's only a scandal or a gaffe away from losing.
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