The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread, Part 3

[NewYorkExpress]

Indiana does have a Gubernatorial Election in 2020, so he might end up running for that office instead.

But he hasn't given any indication that he's interested in that, yet has given indication that he might be interested in a presidential run.  I figure it was either the presidency or another run for mayor.  So if he's not running for mayor, then I guess it's the presidency by default.

That's correct, but we have seen politicians Express interest in one office and then run for another office instead.

[Usili]

And in something of more interesting news for today so far:

https://twitter.com/BenWSYX6/status/1074733631036379137

[Spiffy]

Buttigieg’s dog again. Big if true.

https://twitter.com/firstdogtruman/status/1074757617749233664?s=21

[President Johnson]

Buttigieg’s dog again. Big if true.

https://twitter.com/firstdogtruman/status/1074757617749233664?s=21

Pete is a good guy, but a bit too early for the presidency. A cabinet position? Absolutely.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

[Joey1996]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

Interesting

[Spiffy]

Buttigieg’s dog again. Big if true.

https://twitter.com/firstdogtruman/status/1074757617749233664?s=21

Pete is a good guy, but a bit too early for the presidency. A cabinet position? Absolutely.

I agree. The most obvious position thrown out there has been HUD, but I’ve heard Homeland Security thrown out there too. Personally HUD would make the most sense.

[President Johnson]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

[Comrade Funk]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

[Joey1996]

Buttigieg’s dog again. Big if true.

https://twitter.com/firstdogtruman/status/1074757617749233664?s=21

Pete is a good guy, but a bit too early for the presidency. A cabinet position? Absolutely.

I agree. The most obvious position thrown out there has been HUD, but I’ve heard Homeland Security thrown out there too. Personally HUD would make the most sense.

Homeland is a better platform to build a future presidential run though, no?

[LAKISYLVANIA]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

Could happen as she will likely try to announce before Warren or Sanders does.

[Joey1996]

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1074693862856237058

Well then, I guess he's running for president, because there's no other compelling reason not to run for another term.  Also:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/south-bend-mayor-pete-buttigieg-moves-toward-presidential-run/2018/12/17/e51930a2-fe5e-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

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A presidential announcement also might not come right away in 2019, because he has a book coming out in February, and may want to do the book tour before officially becoming a candidate.

Indiana does have a Gubernatorial Election in 2020, so he might end up running for that office instead.

Do you think it's possible that Indiana splits the ticket and votes for Trump for president and Buttigieg for governor?

[NewYorkExpress]

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1074693862856237058

Well then, I guess he's running for president, because there's no other compelling reason not to run for another term.  Also:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/south-bend-mayor-pete-buttigieg-moves-toward-presidential-run/2018/12/17/e51930a2-fe5e-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

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A presidential announcement also might not come right away in 2019, because he has a book coming out in February, and may want to do the book tour before officially becoming a candidate.

Indiana does have a Gubernatorial Election in 2020, so he might end up running for that office instead.

Do you think it's possible that Indiana splits the ticket and votes for Trump for president and Buttigieg for governor?

If Buttgeig is the Gubernatorial nominee in 2020, it wouldn't shock me at all, but it would require a relatively weak Republican (or just someone who can easily be linked back to Mike Pence...apparently he really isn't all that popular in his home state).

[Spiffy]

Buttigieg’s dog again. Big if true.

https://twitter.com/firstdogtruman/status/1074757617749233664?s=21

Pete is a good guy, but a bit too early for the presidency. A cabinet position? Absolutely.

I agree. The most obvious position thrown out there has been HUD, but I’ve heard Homeland Security thrown out there too. Personally HUD would make the most sense.

Homeland is a better platform to build a future presidential run though, no?

Probably but I was just speaking to what he is more likely to be offered. The only thing that might slightly help his chances with getting Homeland would be that he is a veteran.

[Lognog]

https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1074693862856237058

Well then, I guess he's running for president, because there's no other compelling reason not to run for another term.  Also:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/south-bend-mayor-pete-buttigieg-moves-toward-presidential-run/2018/12/17/e51930a2-fe5e-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

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A presidential announcement also might not come right away in 2019, because he has a book coming out in February, and may want to do the book tour before officially becoming a candidate.

Indiana does have a Gubernatorial Election in 2020, so he might end up running for that office instead.

Do you think it's possible that Indiana splits the ticket and votes for Trump for president and Buttigieg for governor?

If Buttgeig is the Gubernatorial nominee in 2020, it wouldn't shock me at all, but it would require a relatively weak Republican (or just someone who can easily be linked back to Mike Pence...apparently he really isn't all that popular in his home state).

I just can't see a democrat winning statewide after 2018, even 2016 there was a governor's race that democrats could have won in 2016.

[lfromnj]

Yeah buttigeg is basically screwed.
Indiana gov has a popular R incumbent in a red state. Safe r.
In 2nd is to the right of the state so he can't go for that.
Lol at president
His best bet would be a kander Yolo at todd young in 2022 in a trump midterm

[Mr. Morden]

Harris prepares for a campaign launch that may come in mid-to-late January:

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-run/articles/2018-12-17/kamala-harris-expected-to-move-quickly-on-2020-race-in-january

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Joe Biden continues to make comments that suggest to me that he may ultimately pass on a run.  Now says that “anyone” can beat Trump, which would seem to argue against the notion that he alone can do the deed:

https://theintercept.com/2018/12/17/joe-biden-2020-election-trump/

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Warren is making phone calls to Iowa Democrats:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/12/17/massachusetts-elizabeth-warren-iowa-democrats-2020-president-run-iowa-caucus-campaign/2339369002/

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Indiana does have a Gubernatorial Election in 2020, so he might end up running for that office instead.

But he hasn't given any indication that he's interested in that, yet has given indication that he might be interested in a presidential run.  I figure it was either the presidency or another run for mayor.  So if he's not running for mayor, then I guess it's the presidency by default.

That's correct, but we have seen politicians Express interest in one office and then run for another office instead.

Well sure, he *could* run for some other office.  I'm just saying that it's more likely that he'll run for an office that he's actually said he might run for, which would be president or mayor.  Since mayor is out now, that means the odds on him launching a presidential run go way up.

[Cold War Liberal]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

[America Needs R'hllor]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

Also, if Buttigieg runs I'd be really torn. On the one hand, I'd prefer he wins higher office like Governor or Congress before running. On the other hand, I think he'd make an amazing President after what he did in South Bend, and considering how hard it'd be for a Democrat to win Indiana, this might just be the right time. I'd probably be torn between Pete, Kirsten Gillibrand and Beto O'Rourke.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

[Coldstream]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

[Joey1996]

Harris prepares for a campaign launch that may come in mid-to-late January:

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-run/articles/2018-12-17/kamala-harris-expected-to-move-quickly-on-2020-race-in-january

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So Harris will be our first major announcement, this will put pressure on everyone else to declare by April

[Sir Mohamed]

Harris prepares for a campaign launch that may come in mid-to-late January:

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-run/articles/2018-12-17/kamala-harris-expected-to-move-quickly-on-2020-race-in-january

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So Harris will be our first major announcement, this will put pressure on everyone else to declare by April

YES! QUEEN KAMALA, the first female President of the United States!

[Beet]

Harris prepares for a campaign launch that may come in mid-to-late January:

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-run/articles/2018-12-17/kamala-harris-expected-to-move-quickly-on-2020-race-in-january

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So Harris will be our first major announcement, this will put pressure on everyone else to declare by April

YES! QUEEN KAMALA, the first female President of the United States!

I have no idea why people love her. At first I just thought she was just overhyped, but she' actually terrible. Her office:

- Defended a prosecutor caught making up a transcript of a fake confession

- Hid massive abuses in the state crime lab

- Argued that a guy ruled not guilty should still be in prison because he didn't prove his innocent fast enough

- Supported a bill that would have locked up poor parents of color for kids' truancy

- Argued that people should be kept in prison longer because of cheap labor

- One of her top advisors was involved in a years-long MeToo scandal involving retaliation

- Started her career with nepotism

- Sent out a tweet purporting to raise money for Stacey Abrams last month, when half the money actually went to herself

That's on top of all the Mnuchin stuff that always gets attention. I mean whatever, if people don't want to care about any of that, that's their choice. But any time Harris becomes really controversial (which WILL happen, especially if she does well) there will be plenty of material to get her with.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

https://twitter.com/KateNocera/status/1074764504104345600

God help us.

Also, if Buttigieg runs I'd be really torn. On the one hand, I'd prefer he wins higher office like Governor or Congress before running. On the other hand, I think he'd make an amazing President after what he did in South Bend, and considering how hard it'd be for a Democrat to win Indiana, this might just be the right time. I'd probably be torn between Pete, Kirsten Gillibrand and Beto O'Rourke.

He should run to raise name awareness, and maybe be included in cabinet or as a possible VP candidate. (he would be an excellent pick for Kamala).