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« Reply #1425 on: March 04, 2018, 04:01:06 PM »

There is no point in speculating over nothing.
It's the exit poll produced for Sky, so it's not exactly the auburgines and oranges crap seen elsewhere.
I absolutely hope that it's wrong, but it's A) realistic and B) scary as hell.
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« Reply #1426 on: March 04, 2018, 04:08:03 PM »

Sorry if this question got answered already: How are PR seats allocated.  Is there one all Italy list or are there separate lists per region? 

This makes a difference for parties like LN where their PR vote will be very concentrated.  Under the former system LN can benefit from the very little votes it gets outside the North (but they will add up) and under the later system they are all wasted votes.  Also under the later system the small parties will tend to lose out since the threshold to get seats will be higher.
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« Reply #1427 on: March 04, 2018, 04:12:22 PM »

Sad Starting to get nervous.
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« Reply #1428 on: March 04, 2018, 04:14:00 PM »

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« Reply #1429 on: March 04, 2018, 04:14:02 PM »

There is no point in speculating over nothing.
It's the exit poll produced for Sky, so it's not exactly the auburgines and oranges crap seen elsewhere.
I absolutely hope that it's wrong, but it's A) realistic and B) scary as hell.

All right, but 1. those are partial results with many people left to vote, 2. even "mainstream" exit polls got it badly wrong in 2013.

It also seems odd to focus on specific party results without taking into account broader coalition dynamics. Like, is Lega overperforming across the board, or just taking votes from FI? Is M5S taking more votes from the right or the left? Besides, "wave" is a subjective notion. Arguably any result close to what the polls predicted would be a "wave".
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« Reply #1430 on: March 04, 2018, 04:28:33 PM »

This reminds me of all the dubious Belgian polls during the last day of the first round of the French presidential election. Wasn't it something like Fillon 27% Le Pen 24% lol?
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« Reply #1431 on: March 04, 2018, 04:35:05 PM »

When do polls close?
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« Reply #1432 on: March 04, 2018, 04:37:10 PM »


20min
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« Reply #1433 on: March 04, 2018, 04:42:30 PM »

There will be exit polls at 23?
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« Reply #1434 on: March 04, 2018, 04:48:16 PM »


Yes, but speaking from experience Italian exit polls are amongst the crappiest in the Western world.
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« Reply #1435 on: March 04, 2018, 04:53:36 PM »

Anywhere good to track results as they come in?
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« Reply #1436 on: March 04, 2018, 04:57:53 PM »

It's going to be awful no matter what. Not much point in getting too excited
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« Reply #1437 on: March 04, 2018, 04:58:41 PM »

It's like Christmas Eve. Where are them polls?
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« Reply #1438 on: March 04, 2018, 05:02:17 PM »

Looks like five star around 30
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« Reply #1439 on: March 04, 2018, 05:03:07 PM »

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« Reply #1440 on: March 04, 2018, 05:03:16 PM »

Both LN and FI around 14 to 15
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« Reply #1441 on: March 04, 2018, 05:03:38 PM »

Exit polls from RAI, be warned, exit polls as stated before, are notoriously horrible in Italy:

M5S: 29-32
PD: 20.5-23.5
FI: 13-16
LN:  13-16
Fdl: 4-6
LeU: 3-5
+E: 2.5-4.5
Ncl: 1-3
I: 0-2
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« Reply #1442 on: March 04, 2018, 05:05:04 PM »

M5S and Lega overperformance.
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« Reply #1443 on: March 04, 2018, 05:05:47 PM »

M5S, Lega and FdL likely have a majority with these numbers. Is such a coalition possible?
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« Reply #1444 on: March 04, 2018, 05:06:00 PM »

different site

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« Reply #1445 on: March 04, 2018, 05:06:14 PM »


For sure M5S.  I think LN mostly in line with pre election polls
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« Reply #1446 on: March 04, 2018, 05:07:12 PM »


For sure M5S.  I think LN mostly in line with pre election polls

And that overpreformance isn't all that large, compared to probably what most here were expecting.
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« Reply #1447 on: March 04, 2018, 05:08:12 PM »

Wait who would become PM in a rightwing government if the current result stands?
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« Reply #1448 on: March 04, 2018, 05:08:52 PM »

M5S, Lega and FdL likely have a majority with these numbers. Is such a coalition possible?

Possible, but highly unlikely.
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« Reply #1449 on: March 04, 2018, 05:10:14 PM »

Yeah, this looks mostly in line with polls except for M5S.

And either way, again, Italian exit polls don't mean much.
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