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bobloblaw
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« on: May 12, 2015, 02:10:04 PM »

There is no blue wall.
However since 1992, there has been a popular vote wall for the GOP at under 51%. As such a whole bunch of states that are D+1 to D+3 look like they are permanent Dem states, but they are no more Dem today than they were in 1968-88. It is just the GOP cant perform in the NPV.
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2015, 02:11:03 PM »

The Blue Wall is a popular vote wall not an electoral college one. Obviously if Romney won the PV by 4%, he'd win all those states.

But in order to win the PV by 4%, with anti-immigration, anti-welfare, anti-minority rhetoric, they'd have to carry 65% of the white vote. Good luck.

Carrying 65% of the white vote is very doable.
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2015, 02:11:59 PM »

The Blue Wall is a popular vote wall not an electoral college one. Obviously if Romney won the PV by 4%, he'd win all those states.

But in order to win the PV by 4%, with anti-immigration, anti-welfare, anti-minority rhetoric, they'd have to carry 65% of the white vote. Good luck.

Given the rumors that Hillary plans on making Affirmative Action a center piece of her campaign, 65% might not be to far off.
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2015, 02:15:49 PM »

The Blue Wall is a popular vote wall not an electoral college one. Obviously if Romney won the PV by 4%, he'd win all those states.

But in order to win the PV by 4%, with anti-immigration, anti-welfare, anti-minority rhetoric, they'd have to carry 65% of the white vote. Good luck.

Given the rumors that Hillary plans on making Affirmative Action a center piece of her campaign, 65% might not be to far off.

Rumors by who? A guy rambling on the street corner?

Try reading the articles on RCP.
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2015, 02:28:57 PM »

The Blue Wall is a popular vote wall not an electoral college one. Obviously if Romney won the PV by 4%, he'd win all those states.

But in order to win the PV by 4%, with anti-immigration, anti-welfare, anti-minority rhetoric, they'd have to carry 65% of the white vote. Good luck.

The GOP can win 65% of the white vote....with all the race baiting going on currently, I predict they win 70% in 2016

wanna bet?

70% is too much for 2016, but very doable by 2032
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2015, 11:10:48 AM »

The GOP has embrace NAFTA during the Southern Strategy which included partnership with Mexico and won CO and NV. But when the right of citizenship when it came to amnesty; the map flipped in favor of the Dems.

The Democratic majority from 1993-2001, and 2009-2015 and will continue into 2016; has become the Abraham Lincoln blue wall.

There is no Dem majority. Holding one office out of WH, congress, govs and state legislatures doesnt make a majority. 1920s were a majority for the GOP and 1932-68 was a majority for the Dems.
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bobloblaw
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2015, 09:54:45 AM »

The Democrats now have the more stable coalition for winning the Presidency. Their last (the current) President is far easier to defend than the last Republican President. Their policies are beginning to pay political dividends. 

talk about spin.

Their last election 2012, was the third closest presidential re-election in US history and the only one where the incumbent won with fewer votes and a smaller percentage of the votes. Even GW Bush got 12 million more votes in 2004 than in 2000.

Yeah their policies have paid dividends alright.........for the GOP. Since 2008, the Dems have lost 78 House seats, 13 Senate seats and thousands upon thousands of state legislative seats.
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