On-Going Military Coup in Turkey (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 13, 2024, 08:08:21 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  International General Discussion (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  On-Going Military Coup in Turkey (search mode)
Pages: [1] 2
Author Topic: On-Going Military Coup in Turkey  (Read 11995 times)
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« on: July 15, 2016, 03:39:01 PM »
Quote from: President Washington on July 15, 2016, 03:13:53 PM

Well it must be a coup then. I wonder how much of the military is supporting this then, enough to be successful?

The 1960 coup was conducted by army officers at the rank of colonels and below without the participation of generals.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 03:44:51 PM »

The question is whether we're talking about a bunch of colonels (perhaps some junior generals), or senior generals being involved.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 03:51:27 PM »
Quote from: Silent Hunter on July 15, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Well, that puts paid to any accelerated EU membership...

It's not like Turkey had a real shot before.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 03:54:01 PM »
Quote from: Angel of Death on July 15, 2016, 03:52:12 PM
Could there be a relationship with the recent diplomatic turnabouts with respect to Russia and Syria?

I've heard about possible U.S. involvement, but don't have a source.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 03:58:39 PM »
Quote from: Beet on July 15, 2016, 03:56:51 PM
As much as I don't like Erdogan, the elected president should be respected.

Normally I'd agree, but one can argue that via his authoritatian methods Erdogan lost a democratic legitimacy.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 04:17:54 PM »
Quote from: I did not see L.A. on July 15, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: Angel of Death on July 15, 2016, 04:15:06 PM
Surely I'm not the only one troubled by Kerry's initial statement, in particular the lack of even a token mention of how democracy and the constitutional order of a country such as this should be respected?

I wouldn't be too shocked if the US had a hand in this. Wouldn't be the first time.

Never thought I'd ever support a (possibly)U.S.-backed coup.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2016, 04:20:03 PM »
Quote from: eeveergreen on July 15, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
well… let's hope that the turkish military is less awful than the egyptian military.

I hope so. One generalissimo Sissi in the region is enough.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2016, 04:21:37 PM »
Kerry's statement was pretty much "oh, I had to said something mild, guys"
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2016, 04:22:30 PM »
Let's hope whoever's in charge is not another Kenan Evren.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2016, 04:27:11 PM »
Quote from: Blue3 on July 15, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
All alliances and treaties will be upheld, according to the Peace Council (aka military rulers).

I love orwellian names.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2016, 04:29:40 PM »
Will rhe ISIS grant Erdogan an asylum?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2016, 04:30:28 PM »

That would be... ironic.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2016, 04:46:44 PM »

No, you're going too far now.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2016, 04:57:19 PM »
Is there any indication who's on the "Peace Council", or the name is all we know?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2016, 05:19:25 PM »
The police headquarters is apparently being attacked by the military.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2016, 05:32:36 PM »
Reported fire exchange between military and police in Ankara and Istanbul.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2016, 05:38:04 PM »
Quote from: Watermelon sin Jamón on July 15, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: a.scott on July 15, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
So when can we expect to find Putin's fingerprints all over this?
Once again, Turkey can have their coups without any foreign help.

OK, the 1960 coup was clearly a wholly internal affair (again, by junior officers), but the 1980 coup had CIA fingerprints all over.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2016, 05:39:52 PM »
Quote from: TimTurner on July 15, 2016, 05:38:23 PM
Quote from: Watermelon sin Jamón on July 15, 2016, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: a.scott on July 15, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
So when can we expect to find Putin's fingerprints all over this?
Once again, Turkey can have their coups without any foreign help.
Coups in Turkey don't happen, generally, if the incumbent government has as much support as Erdogan has right now.

Haven't Menderes had a substantial support while outset? (I'm asking because I don't know).
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2016, 05:56:35 PM »
Well, if they didn't by now, this is probably going to collapse. The question is, how long and how bloody the collapse will be.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2016, 07:27:37 PM »
Quote from: RodPresident on July 15, 2016, 06:10:35 PM
Any chance of this being False Flag? Kkkk, but Erdogan is one of my favourite world leaders. Better than establishment pro-business and fascist pro-military that always went against Turkish people. But establishment prefers a leader with their trust than Erdogan as member of anti-imperialist axis with Putin and Assad.

?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2016, 07:51:21 AM »
Oh, now there's talk about restoring death penalty. Is Erdogan still going to apply to the EU?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2016, 01:20:23 PM »
Bring Back Abdul Hamid II!
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2016, 02:31:10 PM »
Any chance the Caliph expelling U.S. forces if Gulen is not extradited?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2016, 04:04:05 PM »
Quote from: L'exquisite Douleur on July 16, 2016, 03:39:18 PM
No way this was a US-backed coup. Far too bumbling.

It's not like every coup backed by the US is successfull. Remember Venezuela?
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2016, 02:15:09 PM »
At height of Turkish coup bid, rebel jets had Erdogan's plane in their sights

So close, lol.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.035 seconds with 12 queries.