Is Obama a Liberal or Moderate?

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In the context of American politics, simply trying UHC makes you a liberal.

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Very very left.

But at least he is pretty incompetent so he doesn't accomplish much.

Lol... on what planet... ah, Planet GOP where political definitions are clear... anything to the left of us, is ultra left wing.

I should have said economically. Foreign policy is center left.

You must be dying inside about the fact that the ultra left auto bailout has probably taken OH and MI out of Republican hands for the 2012 cycle, and possibly a generation.

That isn't true -- in the immediate aftermath of the auto bailout in 2010 Republicans were elected Governor in both states, took control of the entirety of the state legislatures, and majorities in the House delegations. It's true Obama is leading in both states now, but only by narrow, single-digit margins.

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Probably the most liberal POTUS to serve in my lifetime.

So you were born after 1968?

He was definitely born after 1980, and probably after 2000.

Torie is one of the oldest users on the forum, and, as I recall, was born sometime in the 1950s.