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« on: June 19, 2014, 08:02:49 PM »

Atlasia prepares to emergency action: “This is our first strike against ISIS. Drones are going to be sent to Iraq immediately”.


Nyman, D.C.
14th of June, 2014.


Pentagon’s chief representative and four-star General Mosley Urquhart announced to the press that twenty Predator drones were going to be sent to Iraq in a period of 2 weeks (the first ten will be there just in a week) and that military technicians were expected to travel along with these machines in order to help Iraqis operate with those technologies. The General also announced that ten Sentinel drones were already being sent to Iraq in order to help its government map the region under ISIS control.

During the event that happened in the Pentagon, protests of pacifists groups were happening and the activists were calling Atlasia not to intervene the region. “It’s none of Atlasian business to interfere in Iraq, we shall let its own people decide their own paths” shouted one protester while other said “It’s funny, our President and our SoEA talks a lot about Human Rights and Peace and now they want to go back to Iraq. Seriously? That’s certainly a foreign policy backlash of this Administration”. A representative of Duke’s government also arrived in the place and before trying to talk with the protesters told to reporters “Duke and Superique don’t want to see war, but, if we don’t do nothing, Iraq will be under ISIS control in a few months”.
Will these drones still be sent if the Senate rejects Duke's plan?
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2014, 09:49:33 PM »

Atlasia prepares to emergency action: “This is our first strike against ISIS. Drones are going to be sent to Iraq immediately”.


Nyman, D.C.
14th of June, 2014.


Pentagon’s chief representative and four-star General Mosley Urquhart announced to the press that twenty Predator drones were going to be sent to Iraq in a period of 2 weeks (the first ten will be there just in a week) and that military technicians were expected to travel along with these machines in order to help Iraqis operate with those technologies. The General also announced that ten Sentinel drones were already being sent to Iraq in order to help its government map the region under ISIS control.

During the event that happened in the Pentagon, protests of pacifists groups were happening and the activists were calling Atlasia not to intervene the region. “It’s none of Atlasian business to interfere in Iraq, we shall let its own people decide their own paths” shouted one protester while other said “It’s funny, our President and our SoEA talks a lot about Human Rights and Peace and now they want to go back to Iraq. Seriously? That’s certainly a foreign policy backlash of this Administration”. A representative of Duke’s government also arrived in the place and before trying to talk with the protesters told to reporters “Duke and Superique don’t want to see war, but, if we don’t do nothing, Iraq will be under ISIS control in a few months”.
Will these drones still be sent if the Senate rejects Duke's plan?
If the Senators believe that allowing ISIS take over Iraq is fine, then, what else shall I do?
I take it that's a yes? If so, what gives you the constitutional authority to take this action?
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 12:54:12 PM »

Atlasia prepares to emergency action: “This is our first strike against ISIS. Drones are going to be sent to Iraq immediately”.


Nyman, D.C.
14th of June, 2014.


Pentagon’s chief representative and four-star General Mosley Urquhart announced to the press that twenty Predator drones were going to be sent to Iraq in a period of 2 weeks (the first ten will be there just in a week) and that military technicians were expected to travel along with these machines in order to help Iraqis operate with those technologies. The General also announced that ten Sentinel drones were already being sent to Iraq in order to help its government map the region under ISIS control.

During the event that happened in the Pentagon, protests of pacifists groups were happening and the activists were calling Atlasia not to intervene the region. “It’s none of Atlasian business to interfere in Iraq, we shall let its own people decide their own paths” shouted one protester while other said “It’s funny, our President and our SoEA talks a lot about Human Rights and Peace and now they want to go back to Iraq. Seriously? That’s certainly a foreign policy backlash of this Administration”. A representative of Duke’s government also arrived in the place and before trying to talk with the protesters told to reporters “Duke and Superique don’t want to see war, but, if we don’t do nothing, Iraq will be under ISIS control in a few months”.
Will these drones still be sent if the Senate rejects Duke's plan?
If the Senators believe that allowing ISIS take over Iraq is fine, then, what else shall I do?
I take it that's a yes? If so, what gives you the constitutional authority to take this action?

This is the definition of a police action, which is strongly within the power of the President. We're going to restore order. There is no need for a declaration of war. We aren't going to war.
Wait...so this is being done by the President, not the SoEA? If so, from where in the Constitution does the President derive the authority for such "police actions?"
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 08:03:39 PM »

Execuse me, but Riley is speaking for himself. This is clearly not an act of War since we are not declaring war to Iraq but we are fighting the terrorists within it. Therefore, while the Senate is the sole one that can declare War, I'm not necessarily declarong War in the traditional judicial term. Furthermore, the whole Constitutional Things seems a little bit strange.... The Constitution doesn't say much about External Affairs and its very shallow when it comes to the Presidential Powers, but I don't believe that any of our actions untill now are out of the proper legal boundaries.
Ugh, this whole situation is just so unclear. Who is taking this action(s) you describe in this thread, you or the President? Is this action the same, connected with, or totally separate from the attack plan announced by the President?
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2014, 04:21:22 PM »
« Edited: July 11, 2014, 09:49:29 PM by Deus Naturae »

I don't agree with everything that JCL's said in this thread, but it's a fair point that it isn't really fair for the SoEA to be able to decide everything that happens while at the same time being tasked to come up with responses and solutions. It would probably be best if the SoEA's narration powers were transferred to the GM and there was a chance that the SoEA's attempts to accomplish various goals could fail.
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