What Is Obama's Long-Term Plan to Rival the Romney/Ryan Plan? (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 18, 2024, 01:33:43 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2012 Elections
  What Is Obama's Long-Term Plan to Rival the Romney/Ryan Plan? (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: What Is Obama's Long-Term Plan to Rival the Romney/Ryan Plan?  (Read 6632 times)
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« on: August 12, 2012, 05:37:38 PM »

This thread needs to be drowned in prayer.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2012, 11:21:58 AM »

Both Romney and Obama will be working with a very conservative House of Representatives. That informs how much power each would have to pass "their plan." A 100% Obama plan is DOA in Congress so is pointless to talk about.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2012, 08:21:20 AM »

Both Romney and Obama will be working with a very conservative House of Representatives. That informs how much power each would have to pass "their plan." A 100% Obama plan is DOA in Congress so is pointless to talk about.
Shouldn't a guy who has been running for/actually president (for 5.5 years) have a plan at some point?  regardless of the house's composition.    

That's not how the modern Democrat sees it. They care about gay marriage and gun control rather than maintaining the solvency of Medicare and Social Security.

Romney/Ryan offer solutions for the real problems facing us today, tomorrow, and far into the future.
Obama/Biden offer divisive culture war rhetoric and kicking the can down the road.

I'm not up for "debating" with a Romney infomercial.

If you want to play that game, I can cut and paste "Four more years!" as long as you can type up new posts. I'm with America's team of hope and change, not going back to the failed policies of the Bush Administration.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2012, 08:30:59 AM »

Here's a more pertinent question: Why the hell wouldn't seniors be scared of Obamacare rationing? Waiting on a list can lead to waiting too long (i.e., pain, suffering and/or death).

In contrast to the false picture Romney paints, President Obama’s Affordable Care Act is working for seniors, strengthening Medicare in a variety of ways:

    Improves quality and delivery system efficiency through the federal agency that distributes Medicare benefits—changes that will save Medicare almost $120 billion in the next five years.

    Extends the life of the Medicare trust fund by 8 years.

    Saves seniors an average of $4,200 over 10 years. By 2022, premiums and coinsurance for seniors will be more than $500 lower because of Obamacare.

    Makes Medicare prescription drugs more affordable for seniors in the coverage gap, closing the “doughnut hole” by 2020.

    Has already provided more than 24.2 million Medicare recipients with free preventive benefits like the Annual Wellness Visit.

Mitt Romney and his running mate Paul Ryan will try to mislead the American people, but he can’t change the fact that the Affordable Care Act is a historic achievement that continues to bolster Medicare and improve the health of our seniors every day.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2012, 08:43:02 AM »

Romney has absolutely nothing to do with the Bush Administration, of course. Whereas Bush embraced and expanded Big Government, something Obama has continued to accelerate, Romney will walk the walk on this commitment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv7MZr-JkEM

    President Obama passed the Affordable Care Act to restore health care as a basic cornerstone of middle-class security in America.

    The Affordable Care Act will make health care more affordable for families and small businesses and brings much-needed transparency to the insurance industry.

    When fully implemented, the Affordable Care Act will keep insurance companies from taking advantage of consumers—including denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions and cancelling coverage when someone gets sick.

    Because of the new law, 34 million more Americans will gain coverage—many who will be able to afford insurance for the first time. Once the law is fully implemented, about 95 percent of Americans under age 65 will have insurance.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2012, 08:44:06 AM »

Obama's plan: Ignore the fact that Medicare is set to go bankrupt in 2024. Continue running $1+ trillion deficits for the next four years. It amounts to kicking the can down the road.

Obamacare takes nearly $700 billion from Medicare in order to provide subsidized coverage to poor people. It amounts to taking from seniors to give to the poor. It is robbing Peter to pay Paul.

This is all just passing problems onto future presidents and generations.

Before health reform, insurance premiums were skyrocketing, and the shared cost of caring for the uninsured added $1,000 to the typical family’s policy. The Affordable Care Act promotes better value through preventive and coordinated care, and eliminates waste and abuses.

The Affordable Care Act also helps keep insurance premiums down. Insurance companies must publicly justify excessive rate hikes and provide rebates if they don’t spend at least 80 percent of premiums on care instead of overhead, marketing, and profits. As many as 9 million consumers are expected to get up to $1.4 billion in rebates because the President passed the Affordable Care Act.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 08:48:16 AM »

Obama's plan: Ignore the fact that Medicare is set to go bankrupt in 2024. Continue running $1+ trillion deficits for the next four years. It amounts to kicking the can down the road.

Obamacare takes nearly $700 billion from Medicare in order to provide subsidized coverage to poor people. It amounts to taking from seniors to give to the poor. It is robbing Peter to pay Paul.

This is all just passing problems onto future presidents and generations.

Before health reform, insurance premiums were skyrocketing, and the shared cost of caring for the uninsured added $1,000 to the typical family’s policy. The Affordable Care Act promotes better value through preventive and coordinated care, and eliminates waste and abuses.

The Affordable Care Act also helps keep insurance premiums down. Insurance companies must publicly justify excessive rate hikes and provide rebates if they don’t spend at least 80 percent of premiums on care instead of overhead, marketing, and profits. As many as 9 million consumers are expected to get up to $1.4 billion in rebates because the President passed the Affordable Care Act.


It is duly noted that you believe it is a good idea to steal resources from a program that seniors paid into for decades in order for there to be higher health coverage rates among poor people and students, most of whom have no chance of finding a decent job after they graduate in this economy. It is also duly noted that you do not care about the fact that Medicare is going bankrupt in 2024 if we continue the Obama Doctrine of kicking the can down the road.

Strengthening Medicare

Fact: More than 47 million Medicare beneficiaries now have access to free health services—including an annual wellness visit, mammograms, and other health screenings—to help detect and treat medical conditions early.

Fact: Thanks to the Affordable Care Act, nearly 3.6 million seniors who fell into the Medicare “doughnut hole” last year saved an average of $604 on prescription drugs.
Logged
Brittain33
brittain33
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,018


« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2012, 10:55:24 AM »

Obama has no plan, other than to get re-elected.

True, because if he isn't reelected, the Medicare changes he worked into PPACA will be repealed by Congress and Romney.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.029 seconds with 11 queries.