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« on: April 28, 2017, 04:31:53 PM »
« edited: May 06, 2017, 05:03:42 PM by #woke O'Malley 2020 »

38. Spiro T. Agnew (Republican-Maryland)/vacant, Arthur Fletcher (Republican-Washington)1974-1981
39. Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (Democrat-California)/Milton Shapp (Democrat-Pennsylvania) 1981-1989
40. Paul Tsongas (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Gary Hart (Democrat-Colorado) 1989-1993

41. H. John Heinz, III (Republican-Pennsylvania)/John S. McCain, III (Republican-Arizona) 1993-2001
42. William "Bill" Bradley (Democrat-New Jersey)/John D. "Jay" Rockefeller IV (Democrat-West Virginia) 2001-2009
43. Michael Steele (Republican-Maryland)/Rudolph W. Giuliani (Republican-New York) 2009-2017
44. Rudolph W. Giuliani (Republican-New York)/H. Jon Hunstman, Jr. (Republican-Utah) 2017-2021

44. Martin O'Malley (Democrat-Maryland)/Tulsi Gabbard (Democrat-Hawaii) 2021-Present
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 03:49:19 PM »

2008 Republican Primaries

Blue - Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island
Red - Former Governor Michael Huckabee of Arkansas
Green - Senator John S. McCain III of Arizona
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 03:55:12 PM »

2008 Republican Primaries

Blue - Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island
Red - Former Governor Michael Huckabee of Arkansas
Green - Senator John S. McCain III of Arizona
An Obama-Chafee election would've been interesting to say the least. I think Obama wins because Chafee is more awkward in public and the GOP's toxicity in 2008.

I actually meant to post this in the other "2.0" thread, but this shall do. This was actually inspired by you having Chafee challenge Bush in '04. This scenario is basically "Chafee is the liberal Republican Reagan", challenging Bush in '04 and beating his successor in 2008. It's undecided in my head if the Democratic President is Clinton, Kerry, or some Southern Democrat as of this point.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 05:48:40 PM »

"A Second Chance" Redux

35. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1961-January 20th, 1965
36. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/James Terry Sanford (Democrat-North Carolina) January 20th, 1965-September 2nd, 1971
37. James Terry Sanford (Democrat-North Carolina) September 2nd, 1971-January 20th, 1973

38. Barry Morris Goldwater (Republican-Arizona)/Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican-Maryland), George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican-Texas) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1977
39. Hubert Horatio Humphrey, Jr. (Democrat-Minnesota)/James Earl Carter (Democrat-Georgia) January 20th, 1977-January 13th, 1978
James Earl Carter (Democrat-Georgia)/Robert F. Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts) January 13th,
 1978-January 20th, 1981

40. Mark Odom Hatfield (Republican-Oregon)/Howard Henry Baker, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. (Democrat-Delaware)/Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997
42. Barry Morris Goldwater, Jr. (Republican-California)/Hillary Rodham Ryan (Republican-Illinois) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2001
43. Hillary Rodham Ryan (Republican-Illinois)/William Floyd Weld (Republican-Massachusetts)
 January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009

44. Johnny Reid "John" Edwards (Democrat-North Carolina)/Condoleezza Rice (Democrat-California) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017
45. Jon Meade Huntsman, Jr. (Republican-Utah)/Charles Timothy Hagel (Republican-Nebraska) January 20th, 2017-Present
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2017, 08:16:35 PM »

34. Douglas MacArthur (Republican-New York)/Earl Warren (Republican-California) January 20th, 1949-January 20th, 1957
35. John William Bricker (Republican-Ohio)/Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1961

36. Ronald Wilson Reagan (Democrat-California)/John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1961-June 19th, 1963
37. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/vacant, William Stuart Symington, Jr. (Democrat-Missouri) June 19th, 1963-January 20th, 1969

38. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/John Bayard Anderson (Republican-Illinois) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1981
39. John Bayard Anderson (Republican-Illinois)/George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican-Texas) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1985

40. Gary Hart (Democrat-Colorado)/William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas) January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1993
41. Henry Ross Perot (Republican-Texas)/Henry John Heinz, III (Republican-Pennsylvania) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
42. Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Democrat-Tennessee)/Joseph Isadore Lieberman (Democrat-Connecticut) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
43. Joseph Isadore Lieberman (Democrat-Connecticut)/Mark Robert Warner (Democrat-Virginia) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2013

44. Jon Meade Huntsman, Jr. (Republican-Utah)/James Henry Webb, Jr. (Republican-Virginia) January 20th, 2013-Present
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 09:25:44 PM »

"People look at you, they see what they want to be. They look at me, they see who they are." Haunted throughout his inaugural months as the nation's chief executive, the young and ambitious President Nixon sought to permanently crush the liberal Republicans and pave the way for his own legacy.

34. Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican-New York)/Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1953-September 24th, 1955
35. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/Christian Archibald Herter (Republican-Massachusetts) September 24th, 1955-January 20th, 1965
36. Eugene Joseph McCarthy (Democrat-Minnesota)/Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1973
37. Donald Henry Rumsfeld (Republican-Illinois)/Howard Henry Baker, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee) January 20th, 1973-January 20th, 1981
38. Thomas Francis Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri)/Lloyd Millard Bentsen, Jr. (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
39. George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican-Texas)/Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
40. Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. (Democrat-Delaware)/Paul Efthemios Tsongas (Democrat-Massachusetts), Charles Spittal Robb (Democrat-Virginia)
41. Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming)/Oliver Laurence North (Republican-Virginia) January 20th, 2001-March 5th, 2003
42. Oliver Laurence North (Republican-Virginia)/
Joseph Isadore Lieberman (Independent Democrat-Republican-Connecticut) March 5th, 2003-January 20th, 2009
43. Gary Warren Hart (Democrat-Colorado)/Harold Eugene Ford, Jr. (Democrat-Tennessee) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017
44. George Walker Bush (Republican-Texas)/Condoleezza Rice (Republican-California)
 January 20th, 2017-Present
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2017, 03:16:43 PM »

What causes Tsongas and DeMint to switch parties?

KP's fetishization of a sensible, moderate, socially liberal, Northern GOP. That said, Paully T's '92 platform, while perhaps conservative compared to the pre-'92 Dems, nevertheless struck a populist and nationalist tone. His campaign book was "A Call to Economic Arms", for God's sake.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2017, 05:00:21 PM »

What causes Tsongas and DeMint to switch parties?

KP's fetishization of a sensible, moderate, socially liberal, Northern GOP. That said, Paully T's '92 platform, while perhaps conservative compared to the pre-'92 Dems, nevertheless struck a populist and nationalist tone. His campaign book was "A Call to Economic Arms", for God's sake.

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I don't mind doing the opposite with the political parties, but it's so much harder. Even after Bill Clinton's stunning success and promising popularity caused by budgetary balance, his ideology of a "social liberal and economic moderate" never really took off.

It certainly is "more likely" within the context of the second half of the twentieth century. And as for Tsongas, he is one of my favorite Democrats to play around with in terms of timelines; I read part of "A Call to Economic Arms", and there was a focus on the nation's trade deficit, and I believe on wages. He was clearly nationalistic and took a tone I rather enjoyed--both interested in fiscal responsibility and the state of the nation's industrial infrastructure.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 05:04:59 PM »

43. George W. Bush (R-TX) 2001-2009 / Dick Cheney (R-WY) 2001-2005, Tom Ridge (R-PA) 2006-2009
44. Barack Obama (D-IL) 2009-2013 / Joe Biden (D-DE) 2009-2013
45. Jon Huntsman (R-UT) 2013-2017 / Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2013-2017
46. Barack Obama (D-IL) 2017-present / Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 2017-present

Does the appointment of Tom Ridge institutionalize a greater willingness by the GOP to reach toward the center, or...?
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2017, 09:31:51 AM »

I had a dream last night that involved many things, but one feature was that someone had had the genius idea of making a Pence/Cheney timeline, which dream me found funny owing to the irony of Cheney being billed by the media as the smart, sensible realist behind the throne. Now, the real joy of such a timeline would lie not in the list of presidents, but in the series of events, but this is all I have to give you for the time being.

A Reformer with Results
42. William Jefferson Clinton (Democrat-Arkansas)/Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Democrat-Tennessee) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 1997
43. Michael Richard Pence (Republican-Indiana)/Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming) January 20th, 1997-January 20th, 2005
44. Rudolph William Louis Giuliani (Republican-New York)/Richard John Santorum (Republican-Pennsylvania) January 20th, 2005-January 20th, 2017

45. James Henry Webb, Jr./Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (Democrat-Illinois) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017
46. Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (Democrat-Illinois)/Steven Clark Bulock January 20th, 2017-January 20th, 2021

47. Jon Meade Huntsman, Jr. (Republican-Utah)/Mark Whitty Everson (Republican-New York) January 20th, 2021-Present

The point of divergence rests with Pence winning his first run for Congress in 1988. As in real life, he quickly ascended the ranks of the national Congressional leadership despite lacking notable legislative success. Come the 1994 "Republican Revolution", Pence is positioned as a champion of "conservative reform", making headlines with the likes of Speaker Newt Gingrich and Budget Chairman John Kasich. With his major House colleagues declining a run for higher office, and sensing an opportunity in a weak field where the only heavyweight as Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole, Pence threw his hat in the ring. His surprise second place finish in Iowa brought him significant momentum, and he managed to displace the frontrunner Dole first in the South, and then in the Mid-West. Incredibly young for a presidential candidate, Pence was encouraged by those in his campaign to select for Vice President someone who would grant an air of stability to the ticket. Surveying his options, he declined opportunities to betray his staunch conservative base through selecting Bill Weld or Pete Wilson. Instead, to supplement his complete lack of foreign policy experience and to cloak his campaign in an air of realism and sensibility, he selected former Secretary of Defense Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney of Wyoming. Cheney's heavy insider credentials, which could be traced back to the Nixon White House, contrasted with Pence's own relative inexperience. Nevertheless, the rather quiet Cheney managed to avoid overshadowing the young nominee. In an incredibly close campaign marked by an energetic opposition nominee and an array of "dirty tricks", the Pence campaign managed to push their man over the finish line.

Pence, suddenly saddled with experience beyond his reckoning, would lean heavily on those around him in his first few months in office. Newt Gingrich, for example, essentially took over the nation's legislative agenda. Meanwhile, foreign policy veteran Cheney played a significant role in the selection of Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of State. National hero Colin Powell, meanwhile, was easily confirmed as Secretary of Defense. Powell would find himself overriden by the Cheney-Rumsfeld team as the United States inserted itself into turmoil in the Balkans while attempting to take to task Saddam Hussein for violation of United Nations resolutions. This eventually led to the military operation to topple Hussein in 1999 and the resulting "Second Gulf War". Nevertheless, Pence's narrow re-election over former Vice President Gore was built on the backs "culture war" slogans even as an array of paleoconservative third parties attempted to undermine the interventionist president.

The September 11th, 2001 attacks which brought Rudy Giulaini national fame served to undermine President Pence's credibility on national security issues. Nevertheless, with Pence's fiery oratory following the attacks, he managed to reaffirm support in his effort to take "terrorism and its shadowy backers" to task. The bursting of the "dot-com" bubble was meanwhile counteracted through an array of middle class tax cuts meant to boost consumer spending. In 2004, with the nation experiencing moderate growth and having yet to grow weary of foreign adventurism, Rudy Giuliani managed to win election against Howard Dean in a campaign that hinged far more on foreign policy than on economic or social issues--something that aided Dean in the Midwest, making him the first Democrat to capture Wisconsin since 1992, for example. Nevertheless, support for Republicans in the suburbs of Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Virginia kept Republicans in power. Nevertheless, the Democrats saw crucial Congressional gains in an election that took attention away from issues such as gay marriage and guns.

It was only after Giuliani's inauguration that the bubble of the last eight years popped. Support for American presence in Iraq collapsed, as did belief in "nation-building". Even as Dick Cheney, the outgoing Vice President, was confirmed as Secretary of State, the national coalition needed to maintain the popularity of his international program was dying.  Meanwhile, growth slowed at home, and a substantial sub-culture built on resisting Giuliani's perceived "police state"--including his unveiling of new surveillance powers in 2005--became mainstream. In 2006, Democratic gains combined to produce majorities in both houses of Congress. By late 2007, Giuliani was facing opposition not only from without, but from his own party. While Lincoln Chafee and Ron Paul would both attempt to challenge the incumbent President, it was in the end Chuck Hagel who stood the best chance. A former member of the armed services, to Giuliani's right on abortion, guns, and immigration, and to his left on foreign policy, Hagel was well-positioned, coming incredibly close in the Iowa Caucuses and seeing surprising support in New Hampshire--the very state to sustain Giuliani's primary campaign four years earlier. Nevertheless, despite victory in the Nevada Caucuses and in a number of other Western states, the Nebraska Senator could not overcome the advantages of incumbency and support from the entire party apparatus. The Democratic primaries, meanwhile, saw two relative newcomers to the national stage fight for the soul of the party, with Jim Webb narrowly overcoming Barack Obama. Selecting Obama as his Vice President, the Democrats united for the general election just as the Republicans were coming apart. Webb benefited from many of the advantages that Hagel had never fully realized; a veteran of the Vietnam War and a former Naval Secretary for President Reagan, he also channeled a rugged, rural, and masculine persona that appealed to a recession-stricken middle America at a time when they were being led by what one activist called "a plutocratic statist from the metropol." On the debate stage, the two could not be more different, even as they both attempted to leverage their histories of "toughness". On November 4th, America made its choice.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2017, 11:34:17 AM »
« Edited: September 09, 2017, 06:43:44 PM by Cath »

35. John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat-Texas) January 20th, 1961-November 22nd, 1963
36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat-Texas) November 22nd, 1963-January 20th, 1965

37. Prescott Sheldon Bush, Sr. (Republican-Connecticut)/Paul Jones Fannin (Republican-Arizona) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969
38. Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat-New York)/James Earl Carter (Democrat-Georgia) January 20th, 1969-January 20th, 1977
39. James Earl Carter (Democrat-Georgia)/Frank Forrester Church, III (Democrat-Idaho) January 20th 1977-January 20th, 1981

40. Henry Ross Perot (Republican-Texas)/Eugene Joseph McCarthy (Republican Minnesota) January 20th, 1981-January 20th, 1989
41. Geraldine Ann Ferraro (Democrat-New York)/Albert Arnold Gore (Democrat-Tennessee) January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1993
42. John Sydney McCain, III (Republican-Florida)/Susan Molinari (Republican-New York) January 20th, 1993-January 20th, 2001
43. Lawrence Douglas Wilder (Democrat-Virginia)/Gary Warren Hart (Democrat-Colorado) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
44. Peter Gosselin Fitzgerald (Republican-Illinois)/Elizabeth Ann Warren (Republican-Massachusetts) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017
45. Barack Hussein Obama, II (Democrat-Illinois)/Timothy Michael Kaine (Democrat-Virginia) January 20th, 2017-Present

Losing Tickets
1964: President Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat-Texas)/Senator Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democrat-Minnesota), Unpledged Electors for Governor George Corley Wallace (Democrat-Alabama)
1968: President Prescott Sheldon Bush, Sr. (Republican-Connecticut)/Vice President Paul Jones Fannin (Republican-Arizona), Former Governor George Corley Wallace (American Independent-Alabama)/Mr. Ronald Wilson Reagan (American Independent-California)
1972: Senator Barry Morris Goldwater (Republican-Arizona)/Governor Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican-Maryland)
1976: Senator Lenore Romney (Republican-Michigan)/Senator George Herbert Walker Bush (Republican-Texas)
1980: President James Earl Carter (Democrat-Georgia)/Vice President Frank Forrester Church, III (Democrat-Idaho), Congressman Paul Norton "Pete" McCloskey (Independent-California)/Former Ambassador to Mexico Patrick Joseph Lucey (Independent-Wisconsin)
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2017, 02:00:14 PM »

Super quickly done attempt at a Germanized America inspired by Truman's Business Plot list.

31. Alfred Emmanuel Smith (Democrat) 1929-1933
32. Virgil Effinger (American) 1933-1945
33. Robert Best (American) 1945


1. Frank Lausche (National Union) 1949-1961
2. Prescott Bush (National Union) 1961-1965
3. Nelson Rockefeller (National Union) 1965-1969

4. George McGovern (Democrat) 1969-1974
5. Eugene McCarthy (Democrat) 1974-1981

6. Robert J. Dole (National Union) 1981-1997
7. William Bradley (Democrat) 1997-2005
8. Susan Snow (National Union) 2005-Present
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2017, 01:49:53 PM »

I love this. What are the origins of the post-Washington houses?
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 04:16:01 PM »

“Saratoga America”. Grin
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 10:25:15 PM »

Why would Dole sacrifice Kansas's EVs by selecting Kassebaum?

Uh, I forgot about that. But Dole could simply change his official homestate. Wouldn't be so unique: Cheney was registered in TX in 2000, before switching back to WY after W selected him for the VP slot.
He could register in DC, for example.

This all passes over the broader point that it would be an absolutely pointless VP pick.
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2017, 02:43:19 PM »


Again, it is still absolutely pointless. If you don’t know about any other politicians from the era, try Wikipedia. Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2017, 08:53:40 PM »

The Better Half

36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat-Texas)/vacant, Hubert Horatio Humphrey, Jr.  (Democrat-Minnesota) 1963-1969
37. Eugene Joseph McCarthy (Democrat-Minnesota)/James Terry Sanford (Democrat-North Carolina) 1969-1973
38. Lenore LaFount Romney (Republican-Michigan)/Robert Joseph Dole (Republican-Kansas) 1973-1981
39. Thomas Francis Eagleton (Democrat-Missouri)/Paul Efthemios Tsongas (Democrat-Massachusetts) 1981-1989
40. Jack Francis Kemp (Republican-New York)/John Bayard Anderson (Republican-Illinois), Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming) 1989-1997
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2017, 08:53:25 AM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2018, 01:01:20 AM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
That would be the Canadian Federation and the Mexican Republic. The prologue to all this is the collapse of the First Confederacy (what we know as the United States) following the War of American Independence, as the Continental Congress went the way of the Holy Roman Empire. As a result, the original American states never expanded west of the Mississippi River, and Mexico became the dominant North American power after winning her independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century (taking New Orleans in the 1840s and rising to the status of a world military power after intervening on behalf of the Cuban Revolutionaries in the Hundred Days' War of 1898). Canada prospered quietly to the north, growing rich after the oil boom of the 1880s, and won her independence in the Irish fashion shortly before the turn of the century. During the war, she formed an alliance with Britain and Russia (the two remaining old powers in the New World), Mexico, and the Cherokee Nation, as well as other minor North American powers (including the Plains Nations) following the invasion of Dakota in 1939.

Make my alternate history dreams comes true in the New Year—was there a Cold War of sorts between a Canada-led liberal bloc and a collectivist Global South pioneered by some People’s Republic of Mexico? Despite the change, that’s a scenario that is still semi-coherent (though I am unsure how Marxism would spread in a world without the USSR).
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2018, 04:07:51 PM »

I’m intrigued, Harry. What victorious conquerors split up the United States after 1945?
That would be the Canadian Federation and the Mexican Republic. The prologue to all this is the collapse of the First Confederacy (what we know as the United States) following the War of American Independence, as the Continental Congress went the way of the Holy Roman Empire. As a result, the original American states never expanded west of the Mississippi River, and Mexico became the dominant North American power after winning her independence from Spain in the early nineteenth century (taking New Orleans in the 1840s and rising to the status of a world military power after intervening on behalf of the Cuban Revolutionaries in the Hundred Days' War of 1898). Canada prospered quietly to the north, growing rich after the oil boom of the 1880s, and won her independence in the Irish fashion shortly before the turn of the century. During the war, she formed an alliance with Britain and Russia (the two remaining old powers in the New World), Mexico, and the Cherokee Nation, as well as other minor North American powers (including the Plains Nations) following the invasion of Dakota in 1939.

Make my alternate history dreams comes true in the New Year—was there a Cold War of sorts between a Canada-led liberal bloc and a collectivist Global South pioneered by some People’s Republic of Mexico? Despite the change, that’s a scenario that is still semi-coherent (though I am unsure how Marxism would spread in a world without the USSR).
That was the general idea. Whether Mexican communism is of the same tenor as Russian Bolshevism is worth asking, but broadly speaking, I imagine a Mexican workers' state arising out of the death of Porfirio Diaz (pushed back a few years to occur in the midst of the First World War), with Emiliano Zapata as our Lenin analogue.

What do we imagine Russia to be in this world?
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2018, 04:03:49 PM »

So how and when do the DFL become center right?
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2018, 01:39:10 PM »

Johnny, We Hardly Knew Ye

On October 21st, 1954, freshman Senator John F. Kennedy died during a risky-laden but necessary back surgery. The startling news of the death of the relatively unknown but undeniably young Senator Kennedy prompted President Eisenhower to reconsider his own health, and what would happen should anything happen...

34. Dwight David Eisenhower (Republican-Pennsylvania)/Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California), Frank John Lausche (Republican-Ohio) January 20th, 1953-January 20th,
 1957

35. Cecil Harland Underwood (Republican-West Virginia)/Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller (Republican-New York) January 20th, 1957-January 20th, 1965
36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat-Texas)/Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts) January 20th, 1965-January 20th, 1969
37. Barry Morris Goldwater (Republican-Arizona)/Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican-Maryland, Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California) January 20th, 1969-September 5th, 1975
38. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican-California)/Gerald Rudolph Ford (Republican-Michigan) September 5th, 1975-January 20th, 1977
39. Robert Francis Kennedy (Democrat-Massachusetts)/Reuben O'Donovan Askew (Democrat-Florida) January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1985
40. Howard Henry Baker, Jr. (Republican-Tennessee)/Jack French Kemp (Republican-New York) January 20th, 1985-January 20th, 1993
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2018, 08:36:28 AM »

ReaganClinton, have you seen “Italian Spider-Man”?
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2018, 08:43:15 PM »

Well, I suppose RFK, Reagan, and Jeb! are honorary women. Tongue
lol yes, but also I put them in because I couldn't see a list without Reagan, and I just want to see Presidents RFK and Jeb!

ReaganClinton, have you seen “Italian Spider-Man”?
nah fill me in

Long story short, there’s an episode where he says “respeca woman” in an acutely ironic situation. I wondered if it was a reference to that. It was a hilarious YouTube show—highly recommended.
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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2018, 10:56:09 PM »

The Square's Deal

43. George Walker Bush (Republican-Texas)/Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican-Wyoming) January 20th, 2001-January 20th, 2009
44. Barack Hussein Obama Jr. (Democrat-Illinois)/Joseph Robinette Biden (Democrat-Delaware) January 20th, 2009-January 20th, 2017
45. Willard Milton "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts)/Michael Richard Pence (Republican-Indiana) January 20th, 2017-Present

Willard Milton "Mitt" Romney
United States Senator from Massachusetts (January 3rd, 1995-January 3rd, 2007)
45th President of the United States of America (January 20th, 2017-Present)

2016 Republican Primaries

Blue - Former Senator Willard Milton "Mitt" Romney of Massachusetts
Yellow - Senator Eduardo Rafael "Ted" Cruz of Texas
Red - Senator "Li'l" Marco Rubio of Florida

2016 Presidential Election

Former Senator Willard Milton "Mitt" Romney (Republican-Massachusetts)/Governor Michael Richard Pence (Republican-Indiana) 335 electoral votes
Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat-New York)/Senator Timoty Michael Kaine (Democrat-Virginia) 203 electoral votes
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