List of Alternate Presidents 2.0.

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JFK bends down to tie his shoe, Jackie gets shot instead

35) John F. Kennedy¹/Lyndon B. Johnson (1961-1965)
36) Lyndon B. Johnson²/Hubert H. Humphrey (1965-1969)
37) Richard M. Nixon/Spiro Agnew, Gerald Ford (1969-1974)
38) Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (1974-1977)
39) Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale (1977-1981)
40) Alexander Haig/Donald Rumsfeld (1981-1985)
41) John F. Kennedy³/Patricia Schroeder (1985-1989)
42) Patricia Schroeder/Mario Cuomo (1989-1997)
43) John McCain/William Weld (1997-2005)

1: Retires out of grief and to raise his children, but finishes his term

2: Decides not to run again, frustrated over not being able to pass as much of the Great Society as he wanted (w/o the martyr effect surrounding JFK's death)

3: Is persuaded to run again in response to Haig's administration's failures

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44) Sen. Hillary Clinton/Sen. Evan Bayh (D-NY/IN) (2009-2017)
-Def 2008: Sen. John McCain/Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-AZ/MN)
-Def 2012: Sen. Rick Santorum/Gov. Chris Christie (R-PA/NJ)

45) Sen. Rand Paul/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-KY/FL)( (2017-2021)
-Def 2016: Vice President Birch Bayh/Sen. Cory Booker (D-IN/NJ)

46) Sen. Joe Sestak/Sen. Russ Feingold (D-PA/WI) (2021-2029)
-Def 2020: President Rand Paul/Vice President Marco Rubio (R-KY/FL)
-Def 2024: Sen. Elise Stefanik/Sen. Cory Gardner (R-NY/CO)

47) Vice President Russ Feingold/Sen. Kamala Harris (D-WI/CA) (2029-present)
-Def 2028: Gov. Adam Kinzinger/Sen. Mia Love (R-KY/UT)

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39. Sen. Frank Church/Sen. John Glenn (D-ID/OH) 1977-1985
Def. 1976 President Gerald Ford/Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-MI/CA)
Def. 1980 Sen. George H. W. Bush/Sen. Howard Baker (R-TX/TN)

40. Vice President John Glenn/Sen. Gary Hart (D-OH/CO) 1985-1989
Def. 1984 Gov. Lamar Alexander/Sen. Bob Dole (R-TN/KS)

41. Sen. John McCain/Sen. Richard Lugar (R-AZ/IN) 1989-1997
Def. 1988 President John Glenn/Vice President Gary Hart (D-OH/CO)
Def. 1992 Fmr. VP Gary Hart/Representative Barbara Jordan (D-CO/TX)

42. Gov. Ann Richards/Sen. Paul Wellstone (D-TX/MN) 1997-2005
Def. 1996 Gov. Bill Weld/Fmr. Sec. James Baker (R-MA/TX)
Def. 2000 Sen. John Ashcroft/Sen. Alan Keyes (R-MO/MD)

43. Businessman Herman Cain/Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-NE/UT) 2005-2009
Def. 2004 Vice President Paul Wellstone/Sen. John Kerry (D-MN/MA)
Def. 2008 Sen. John Edwards/Gov. Kathleen Sibelius (D-NC/KS)

44. Gov. Howard Dean/Gov. Bill Richardson (D-VT/NM) 2009-2017
Def. 2008 President Herman Cain/Vice President Orrin Hatch (R-NE/UT)
Def. 2012 Gov. John Bush/Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-FL/MN)

45. Sen. Rand Paul/Sen. Susan Collins (R-KY/ME) 2017-present
Def. 2016 Vice President Bill Richardson/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-NM/MA)

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43. Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) 2001-2005
Def. 2000: Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Sec. Dick Cheney (R-WY)

44. Fmr. Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice Pres. John Edwards (D-NC)

45. Sen. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Pres. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Vice Pres. Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Def. 2012: Gov. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)

46. Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)/Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC) 2017-2025
Def. 2016: Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
Def. 2020: Sen. Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL)

47. Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) 2025-present
Def. 2024: Vice Pres. Nikki Haley (R-SC)/Gov. Josh Mandel (R-OH)

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43. Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) 2001-2005 [1]
Def. 2000: Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Sec. Dick Cheney (R-WY)

44. Fmr. Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) 2005-2009 [2]
Def. 2004: Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice Pres. John Edwards (D-NC)

45. Sen. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) 2009-2017 [3]
Def. 2008: Pres. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Vice Pres. Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Def. 2012: Gov. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)

46. Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)/Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC) 2017-2025 [4]
Def. 2016: Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
Def. 2020: Sen. Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL)

47. Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) 2025-present [5]
Def. 2024: Vice Pres. Nikki Haley (R-SC)/Gov. Josh Mandel (R-OH)


1: As a reaction to fears that a liberal third-party campaign could ruin his chances at the presidency, Vice Pres. Gore selects the liberal John Edwards as his running mate. A narrow win in Florida secures Gore's victory, but negative reactions to his carbon tax bill and "Clinton Fatigue" leads to a rehash of the 1992 election.

2: The moderate governor of New Jersey and her conservative running mate clinch the nomination as part of an effort to put Republicans back in the White House. However, this new Republican reign is cut short by a regularly-scheduled financial crisis in 2008. While Democrats claim that President Gore could have handled the situation, the Republicans push for austerity measures which prove unpopular.

3: The former Vermont governor had won his state's senate election in 2006, and decided to make a case for progressive reforms to the economy. Promising tighter banking regulation, the creation of "green" jobs for workers who lost employment as a result of the recession, and universal healthcare, Dean took the country by storm, and won in both 2008 and 2012, setting his running mate Blanche Lincoln up for the presidency in 2016...

4: However, Lincoln's centrism (which seemed like conservatism next to Pres. Dean) was not enough for primary voters, who had their hearts stolen by yet another Vermont Democrat, claiming to be the next wave of progressivism: the Democratic Socialist, Bernie Sanders. Sanders narrowly won the primary, but his radicalism did not appeal to the general electorate, who went for the likable, attractive Scott Brown of Massachusetts. Brown campaigned on reigning in federal spending and getting rid of some of the Dean era's unnecessary market reforms, while retaining universal healthcare (though he supported retooling it towards a "public option" system as opposed to Dean and Lincoln's "single payer" system). The charismatic Brown won re-election in 2020.

5: Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii was chosen as the new standard-bearer for the Democrats as the heir to Dean's legacy. As the market began to waver in mid-2024, Gabbard pinned this on Brown's deregulatory policies, which led to her election for fear of repeating the 2008 crash. Gabbard also campaigned on restricting immigration and repealing international trade deals such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, an early accomplishment of Brown's. Gabbard famously stated in her victory speech that "The forgotten men and women of this country will be forgotten no longer" and that "We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism."

TL;DR: As a result of a Gore presidency and twelve straight years of democrat rule, by 2025 the Republicans become socially-moderate globalist neoliberals and the democrats start to become become fiscally-progressive isolationists

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43. Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) 2001-2005
Def. 2000: Gov. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Sec. Dick Cheney (R-WY)

44. Fmr. Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Vice Pres. John Edwards (D-NC)

45. Sen. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Pres. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Vice Pres. Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Def. 2012: Gov. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)

46. Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)/Gov. Nikki Haley (R-SC) 2017-2025
Def. 2016: Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
Def. 2020: Sen. Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/Sen. Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL)

47. Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Michael Bennet (D-CO) 2025-present
Def. 2024: Vice Pres. Nikki Haley (R-SC)/Gov. Josh Mandel (R-OH)

PRAISE THE LORD FOR PRESIDENT BROWN AND GABBARD

IT'S TIME TO STOP

Gore and Dean were masturbatory fantasies of mine, and I'm okay with Brown, but because I forgot to post the explanations, you didn't see how Tulsi became She-Trump.

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32) Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic, Federalist-NY) 1933-1945
33) Harry S. Truman (Federalist-MO) 1945-1949
34) Adlai Stevenson (Federalist-IL) 1949-1957
35) Thomas E. Dewey (Republican-NY) 1957-1961
36) John F. Kennedy (Federalist-MA) 1961-1969
37) Estes Kefauver (Populist-TN) 1969-1977
38) Nelson Rockefeller (Federalist-NY) 1977-1985
39) Frank Church (Populist-ID) 1985-1993
40) Mario Cuomo (Federalist-NY) 1993-2001
41) Paul Tsongas (Federalist-MA) 2001-2005
42) Blanche Lincoln (Populist-MO) 2005-2013
43) Mitt Romney (Federalist-MA) 2013-2021

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41) Vice Pres. George Bush* (R-TX)/Sen. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN) 1989-1994
Def. 1988: Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)
Def. 1992: Fmr. Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE)

42) Vice Pres. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 1994-1997

43) Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2005
Def. 1996: Pres. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
Def. 2000: Gov. Tommy Thompson (R-WI)/Fmr. Sec. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

44) Sen. George Allen (R-VA)/Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2005-2009
Def. 2004: Vice Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)

45) Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)/Gov. Phil Bredesen (D-TN) 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Pres. George Allen (R-VA)/Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Def. 2012: Gov. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

46) Gov. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2017-2021
Def. 2016: Vice Pres. Phil Bredesen (D-TN)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)

47) Sen. Gavin Newsom (D-CA)/Fmr. Attorney General Barack Obama (D-IL) 2021-present
Def. 2020: Pres. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

*Resigned in 1994 due to failing health from complications from Parkinsons

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37. Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Gov. John Connally (D-TX) 1969-1973

38. Gov. Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Sen. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME) 1973-1977

39. Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1977-1985

40. Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Sen. John Glenn (D-TN) 1985-1989

41. Sen. George Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Paul Laxalt (R-NV) 1989-1997

42. Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA) 1997-2005

43. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Fmr. Sec. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 2005-2013

44. Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 2013-2021

45. Gov. Hillary Rodham Romney (R-MA)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2021-2029

46. Sen. Andrew Beshear (D-KY)/Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) 2029-2037

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1957-2001 but starting today

46. Admiral Bill McRaven (D-TX)/Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) 2021-2029

47. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AK)/Sen. John Thune (R-SD) 2029-2031

48. Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Sen. Elise Stefanik (R-NY) 2031-2037

49. Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ)/Gov. Tina Kotek (D-OR), House Majority Leader Tim Ryan (D-OH) 2037-2041 (Booker-Kotek), 2041-2043 (Booker-Ryan)

50. Vice Pres. Tim Ryan (D-OH)/Sen. Kathy Tran (D-VA) 2043-2045

51. Gov. Saira Blair (R-WV)/Sen. Aaron Schock (R-IL) 2045-2049

52. Gov. Joseph Kennedy III (D-MA)/Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) 2049-2057

53. Vice Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Nathan Blair (D-WV) 2057-2061

54. Gov. Chandler Thornton (R-MD)/Sen. Jessica Browning (R-TX) ( 2061-2069

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1957-2001 but starting today
53. Vice Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Sen. Nathan Blair (D-WV) 2057-2061

Shameless self-insert as Dan Quayle?

Absolutely. I do the morning announcements in my high school, and after fifteen years of saying it every morning, today I flubbed the pledge of allegiance. "Potatoe" isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

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Executive Experience Required

39) Gov. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1977-1981

40) Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. George Bush (R-TX) 1981-1989

41) Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1989-1997

42) Vice Pres. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2001

43) Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN) 2001-2009

44) Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) 2009-2013

45) Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) 2013-2021

46) Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) 2021-2029

47) Gov. Josh Hawley (R-MO)Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) 2029-2037

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A Heartbeat Away

41. Vice President George Bush (R-TX)/Sen. J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN) [1] 1989-1991
Def. 1988: Gov. Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)

42. Vice President J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/House Minority Whip Newton Gingrich (R-AL) 1991-1993 [2]

43. Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1993-2001 [3]
Def. 1992: President J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN)/Vice President Newton Gingrich (R-AL)
Def. 1996: Fmr. White House Chief of Staff Patrick Buchanan (R-VA)/Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA) [4]

44. Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Dianne Fienstein (D-CA) 2001-2005 [5]
Def. 2000: Sen. Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)

45. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-MI)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) 2005-2009 [6]
Def. 2004: President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Dianne Fienstein (D-CA)

46. Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)/Gov. Kathleen Sibelius (D-KS) 2009-2017 [7]
Def. 2008: President Mitt Romney (R-MI)/Vice President Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Def. 2012: Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)/Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)

47. Sen. David McKinley (R-WV)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2017-present [8]
Def. 2016: Vice President Kathleen Sibelius (D-KS)/Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)


1. As anyone can now tell you George Bush, circa 1991, was not a healthy man. The President was beginning to suffer the earliest symptoms of Parkinson's, a secret that was hidden similar to FDR's polio as talks with the dissolving USSR were underway. Unfortunately, the burden of seeing a new global order into fruition, combined with age and ailing health, led to the shocking discovery of President Bush dead from a stroke at the Resolute Desk, right as General Colin Powell entered the room to inform the president of the coup.

2. President Quayle was sworn in hours later, much to the dismay of some of Bush's advisers. In a near-inverse of the Cuban Missile Crisis, President Quayle used his first moments of power to hastily deploy troops to the Polish and Romanian border and to inform nearby bases to prepare to deploy fighters at a moment's notice. The Soviet hardliners cited this display of American aggression as the perfect reason to restore power to the Soviet Union and legitimize their government. The nerve-wracking, almost-nuclear standoff lasted a week, until Colin Powell, JCS Chairman, went behind the President's back and ordered the American troops to return to their bases, whilst imploring other world leaders to threaten sanctions on the floundering Soviet economy. Fortunately, Mikhail Gorbachev returned to power, and democratic elections went underway as the USSR formally dissolved later that year.

3. As the 1992 Election season drew near, the question on the public's mind was whether or not the inexperienced President Quayle could handle the global geopolitical shifts created by the Soviet power vacuum. To quell fears (and primary threats) from within his own party, Quayle chose Rep. Newt Gingrich to be his Vice President. In response to the young, reckless Republican, the Democratic party nominated veteran statesman Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, who chose Arkansas Governor Bill Clinton as his running mate. Perhaps the most memorable moment of the '92 election season was during a presidential debate, where, in response to a question on whether or not he could handle further crises, President Quayle responded " I have had as much experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the presidency, and like President Kennedy, I successfully handled a crisis of Soviet aggression." Senator Bentsen's response was the now-legendary "Mr. President, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Mr. President, you're no Jack Kennedy."

4. The first term of President Bentsen went swimmingly as he governed from the center, with such achievements as welfare reform, an expansion of the EITC, the ratification of NAFTA, and the passage of a balanced budget. President Bentsen had cultivated a wise, humble, grandfatherly image akin to President Reagan the decade before. Also notable of the Bentsen Administration was the closeness between the President and the VP; Clinton occasionally referred to Bentsen as "the father he never had". As the President geared up for the 1996 election, he planned to campaign on preserving the new, peaceful global order, (modest) healthcare reform, and infrastructure investment of both the physical and electronic variety. The Republicans, after a failed attempt to shut down the government, knew that they stood little chance of winning in 1996. However, Quayle's former Chief of Staff, Pat Buchanan, had plowed through the primary field of sacrificial lambs-to-be. His fiery paleoconservative rhetoric energized his base, but it had little appeal amongst traditional and moderate Republicans, who only supported him out of partisanship. The election was a landslide for President Bentsen, with the Democratic ticket flipping Virginia, Colorado, and Texas into their column, ending in a 432-106 EV victory.

5. Bentsen's presidency had seen eight years of a prosperous homeland and a more interconnected world, thanks to the refinement of the internet and the success of NAFTA. Clinton campaigned on this legacy, and promised to preserve and further these achievements. Clinton selected Senator Feinstein of California, who became the first woman to ever be on a winning presidential ticket. However, the peace of this new era would not last. In August of 2002, an Iraqi military convoy kidnapped seven members of a UN humanitarian aid mission, as well as reporter Matt Lauer and his camera crew. Using Lauer's equipment, the Iraqi government broadcast the murder of the UN group, Lauer, and his crew, condemning them as supporters of the Kurds against Saddam Hussein. The Republican congress, already anticipating gains in the midterms after ten years of Democratic rule, bashed Clinton and Bentsen for failing to deal with the oppressive Hussein regime. Clinton was then forced into sending troops to depose Hussein, which, by all accounts, should have been a quick event. However, it was drawn into the 2004 election season, which, coupled with Democrat fatigue and revelations of an affair between himself and an aide, led to his defeat at the hands of Senator Romney of Michigan. Clinton's legacy was tarnished, as he now has the reputation of being an interventionist bumpkin.

6. The Romney presidency was doomed to fail. His efforts to remove troops from Iraq failed as guerilla warfare being raged in the streets of Baghdad proved that the U.S.'s plan to establish a functioning democracy would take more intervention than anybody wanted. Furthermore, the prosperity of the Bentsen days petered out in 2007 as the "Great Recession" set in. Romney tried his hardest to stem the recession, but Republicans were unhappy with his "liberal" propositions to solve the problem, and thus, nothing of substance was passed. In hindsight, however, President Romney is now seen a respected, tragic figure along the lines of President Carter, who tried to do what he could to solve the problem, but came up short.

7. Promising hope and change to Americans afflicted by the recession was Senator Edwards of North Carolina, whose financial regulations, among other things, ended up stemming the hemorrhage of money and jobs. The Edwards Administration pushed for universal healthcare, which ended up being labelled as "JohnnyCare", a system that established a public health insurance option for those who could not afford or access private healthcare. This reform went through the largely Democratic congress without much of a hitch. Edwards fashioned himself in the mold of FDR, promising job retraining, if not new jobs altogether, to many of the people affected by the downturn. His "American Restoration Corps" plan was ambitious: the establishment of thousands (if not millions) of public sector jobs in areas such as alternative energy and civil engineering for those who'd recently lost their jobs in similar areas. The plan was also intended to have positions open to college students, who would take lesser wages to help pay off tuition and student loans, however, this section was disliked by both progressives and conservatives, and ultimately, the ARC was somewhat neutered, with only a third of the jobs promised actually being created.

8. To many, Vice President Sibelius's defeat came as a total shock. However, those many were often Beltway insiders and pundits who saw the economic rebound under Edwards's presidency, the success of JohnnyCare in 2011, and the first signs of a stable Middle East as reasons for the average American to vote for Sibelius. To the "average American", Edwards's two terms came up short for them. The ARC hadn't delivered on the scale it was supposed to, and many were still unemployed or underemployed as jobs continued to be shipped overseas. The debt ballooned as a result of the many reforms, which some believed they never saw the benefits of. Troops were still in Iraq ensuring stability, but to the mother of a soldier, fending off guerrilla terrorist cells is no different and no less nerve-wracking than battling the Iraqi army. Enter Senator David McKinley of West Virginia, whose trade populism, near-isolationism, and budgetary discipline appealed to these masses. To many older white Americans, McKinley was one of their own, a man from the poorest state of the union who created his own engineering firm before being elected to the house and, in 2014, the Senate. McKinley selected the young, hispanic "reform conservative" Marco Rubio of Florida as his running mate, and the Republican ticket defeated Sibelius in the general election.

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45. Mr. Donald J. Trump (Republican-IN)/Gov. Mike Pence (Republican-IN): 2017-2025
Def. 2016: Fmr. Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democratic-NY)/Sen. Tim Kaine (Democratic-VA)
Def. 2020: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (Democratic-NY)/Gov. Steve Bullock (Democratic-MT), Fmr. Gov. John Kasich (Federalist-OH)/Fmr. Sen. Jeff Flake (Federalist-AZ)

46. Sen. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Gov. Richard Cordray (D-OH): 2025-2029
Def. 2024: Rep. Charlie Dent (F-PA)/Sen. John Tester (D-MT), Fmr. Sec. Nikki Haley (R-SC)/Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR)

47. Gov. Josh Gottheimer (F-NJ)/Sen. Justin Amash (F-MI): 2029-2037
Def. 2028: Pres. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Vice Pres. Richard Cordray (D-OH), Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)/Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA)
Def. 2032: Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Gov. Joe Kennedy III (D-MA), Sen. Kristi Noem (R-SD)/Sen. William Haslam (R-TN)

48. Vice Pres. Justin Amash (F-MI)/Sen. Jacky Rosen (F-NV): 2037-2041
Def. 2036: Gov. Jeremiah Ellison (D-MN)/Rep. Emma Gonzalez (D-FL), Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE)/Gov. Chandler Thornton (R-MD), Fmr. Sen. Tom Cotton (AF-AR)/Rep. Amy Webb Hogan (R-VA)

49. Gov. Emma Gonzalez (D-FL)/Sen. Anthony Bustos (D-IL): 2041-2049
Def. 2040: Pres. Justin Amash (F-MI)/Vice Pres. Jacky Rosen (F-NV)
Def. 2044: Sen. Stephanie Murphy (F-FL)/Gov. Ryan Ferns (F-WV)

50. Sen. Nathan Blair (F-IN)/Gov. Elise Stefanik (F-NY) : 2049-present
Def. 2048: Sec. Dana Jeffries (D-MI)/Sen. Sean Abrams (D-PA)

By the 2040's, the Federalist Party has become a center to center-right (by today's standard's) party that supports, above all, the lowering of barriers for all Americans to be successful in a meritocratic free market and anti-crony capitalism, whereas the Democratic Party advocate a pro-central planning and state capitalist agenda on the basis of social justice

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42. Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Pres. George Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN), Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX), Adm. James Stockdale (I-VA)
Def. 1996: Fmr. Sec. Lamar Alexander (R-TN)/Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA)

43. Vice Pres. Bob Graham (D-FL)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN): 2001-2005
Def. 2000: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)

44. Gov. Donald J. Trump (I-NY)/Rep. Ron Paul (I-TX): 2005-2013
Def. 2004: Pres. Bob Graham (D-FL)/Vice Pres. Al Gore (D-TN), Sen. George Allen (R-VA)/Rep. John Kasich (R-OH)
Def. 2008: Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC), Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AK)

45. Vice Pres. Ron Paul (I-TX)/Sen. Richard Shelby (I-AL): 2013-2017
Def. 2012: Gov. John Huntsman, Jr. (R-UT)/Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA), Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)

46. Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 2017-present
Def. 2016: Pres. Ron Paul (I-TX)/Vice Pres. Richard Shelby (I-AL), Gov. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)

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42. Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Al Gore, Jr. (D-TN): 1993-1996*
Def. 1992: Pres. George Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN), Businessman H. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Adm. James Stockdale (I-VA)

43. Vice Pres. Al Gore, Jr. (D-TN)/Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): 1996-2005
Def. 1996: Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS)/Rep. Jack Kemp (R-NY)
Def. 2000: Rep. John Kasich (R-OH)/Fmr. Sec. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)

44. Sen. J.C. Watts (R-OK)/Gov. John Bush (R-FL): 2005-2013
Def. 2004: Pres. Al Gore, Jr. (D-TN)/Vice Pres. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Def. 2008: Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)

45. Fmr. Gov. Hillary Clinton (D-IL)/Sen. John F. Kennedy, Jr. (D-NY): 2013-2021
Def. 2012: Vice Pres. John Bush (R-FL)/Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Def. 2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)

46. Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)/Gov. Charlie Baker (R-MA): 2021-present
Def. 2020: Vice Pres. John F. Kennedy, Jr. (D-NY)/Gov. Antonio Villaraigosa (D-CA)

*killed by an explosion along with most of his motorcade during his visit to Manila for the APEC forum, was deceived into driving over a bridge when faulty intelligence (later found to be linked to and masterminded by Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden) reported that there was a bomb planted elsewhere. This (instead of 9/11, which wouldn't happen due to all the heat on Al-Qaeda) results in a years-long manhunt for Bin Laden, however, this is not accomplished in Gore's presidency.

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The Loser's Bracket

35. Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Gov. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): 1961-1969
Def. 1960: Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. George Smathers (D-FL)
Def. 1964: Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)

36. Gov. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY)/Sen. Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1969-1973*
Def. 1968: Gov. George Romney (R-MI)/Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN)
Def. 1972: Sen. John Tower (R-TX)/Gov. Jim Rhodes (R-OH)

37. Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA): 1973-1977

38. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/House Majority Leader Gerald Ford (R-MI): 1977-1981
Def. 1976: President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Vice President Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA)

39. Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 1981-1989
Def. 1980: President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President Gerald Ford (R-MI)
Def. 1984: Fmr. Vice President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-KS)

40. Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR): 1989-1993
Def. 1988: Gov. John Sununu (R-NH)/Sen. George Bush (R-TX)

41. Sen. Arlen Specter (R-PA)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Vice President Bill Clinton (D-AR)
Def. 1996: Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Fmr. Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)

42. Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Fmr. Sec. of Defense Wesley Clark (D-IL): 2001-2009
Def. 2000: Vice President John McCain (R-AZ)/Rep. John Kasich (R-OH)
Def. 2004: Gov. Fred Thompson (D-TN)/Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)

43. Sen. Bobby Jindal (R-LA)/Sen. John Kyl (R-AZ): 2009-2017
Def. 2008: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-AR)/Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)
Def. 2012: Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MA)/Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)**

44. Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO): 2017-present
Def. 2016: Fmr. Sec. of State John McCain (R-AZ)/Sen. John Thune (R-SD)

*President Kennedy was killed in the infamous Watergate shooting

**Senate Majority Leader since 2015

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44. Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)/Fmr. Gen. Wesley Clark (D-AR): 2005-2013
Def. 2004: Pres. George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)
Def. 2008: Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)/Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)

45. Gov. Dan Coats (R-IN)/Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH): 2013-2020*
Def. 2012: Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-CT)/Sen. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Def. 2016: Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/Fmr. Attorney General Hillary Clinton (D-IL)

46. Vice Pres. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)/Gov. Mark Kirk (R-IL): 2020-2025
Def. 2020: Gov. Kamala Harris (D-CA)/Sen. Tim Ryan (D-OH)

47. Gov. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ)/Sen. Joaquin Castro (D-TX): 2025-present
Def. 2024: Pres. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)/Vice Pres. Mark Kirk (R-IL)

*President Coats passed away due to a heart attack in June of 2020.

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A Hind D?!

42. Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN): 1993-2001
Def. 1992: Pres. George Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN), Mr. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Adm. James Stockdale (I-VA)
Def. 1996: Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS)/Rep. Jack Kemp (R-NY)

43. Gov. George Sears (R-MI)/Sen. James Johnson (R-PA): 2001-2005*
Def. 2000: Vice Pres. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT)

44. Vice Pres. James Johnson (R-PA)/Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA): 2005-2009**
Def. 2004: Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT)/Gen. Wesley Clark (D-AR)
Def. 2008: Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE)/Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)

45. Vice Pres. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Sen. John Ashcroft (R-MO): 2009-2013

46. Gov. Rob Hamilton (D-NM)/Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI): 2013-2021
Def. 2012: Pres. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice Pres. John Ashcroft (R-MO)
Def. 2016: Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)

47. Sen. Steven Armstrong (R-CO)/Gov. Bruce Rauner (R-IL): 2020-present
Def. 2020: HUD Sec. Julian Castro (D-TX)/Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)

*Resigned "due to ill health", following the Shadow Moses Incident in April of 2005
**Killed in the Big Shell Incident in April of 2009

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What are the Shadow Moses and Big Shell incidents?

They're events from the Metal Gear Solid series, specifically the bulk of the events in MGS1 and MGS2. Sears, Johnson, Hamilton, and Armstrong are characters within the series.

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39. Rep. Mo Udall (D-AZ)/Sen. Birch Bayh (D-IN): 1977-1985
Def. Pres. Ford/VP Rockefeller '76
Def. Baker/Anderson '80

40. Sen. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Sen. Paul Laxalt (R-NV): 1985-1993
Def. Sen. Mondale/Sen. Church '84
Def. Sen. Biden/Gov. Babbitt '88

41. Vice Pres. Paul Laxalt (R-NV)/Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN): 1993-1997
Def. Sen. Gore/Rep. Gephardt '92

42. Fmr. Gov Douglas Wilder (D-VA)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL): 1997-2005
Def. Sec. of State McCain/Sen. Frist '96
Def. Gov. Ridge/Sen. Hatch '00

43. Gov. Gary Johnson (R-NM)/Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA): 2005-2013
Def. VP Graham/Sen. Edwards '04
Def. Sen. Edwards/Gov. Sibelius '08

44. Vice Pres. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Gov. Leah Vukmir (R-RI): 2013-2017
Def. Gov. Napolitano/Sen. Dayton '12

45. Sen. Anthony Villaraigosa (D-CA)/Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN): 2017-present
Def. Pres. Santorum/VP Vukmir '16

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1) I thought Obama was “Kenyan” and 2) At what point do we annex Pakistan?!

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1) I thought Obama was “Kenyan” and 2) At what point do we annex Pakistan?!

I’m Emo.

We still have those?

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2017-2020: Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN)
-def. 2016: Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
-def. 2020: Fmr. Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA); Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI)/Activist Michael Santiago "Killer Mike" Render (G-GA)

2020-2021: Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN)/vacant

2021-2025: Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN)/Fmr. Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)

2025-2033: Gov. Andrew Gillum (D-FL)/Sen. Cheri Bustos (D-IL)
-def. 2024: Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN)/Vice Pres. Brian Sandoval (R-NV)
-def. 2028: Sen. Kim Reynolds (R-IA)/Sen. Eric Brakey (R-ME)

2033-2037: Vice Pres. Cheri Bustos (D-IL)/Sen. Stacy Abrams (D-GA)
-def. 2032: Sen. Eric Brakey (R-ME)/Gov. Mike Gallagher (R-WI)

2037-2045: Gov. George P. Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Kersten Bond (R-MI)
-def. 2036: Pres. Cheri Bustos (D-IL)/Vice Pres. Abrams (D-GA)
-def. 2040: Fmr. Sec. Ted Lieu (D-CA)/Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT)

2045-present: Sen. Justin Chennette (D-ME)/Sen. Marten Stein (D-IN)
-def. 2044: Vice Pres. Kersten Bond (R-MI)/Gov. G.T. Bynum (R-OK)

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2017-2021: Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN)
-def. 2016: Fmr. Sec. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)

2021-2023: Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV) [1]
-def. 2020: Pres. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN); Sen. Jeff Flake (C-AZ)/Commentator Bill Kristol (C-NY);

2023-2029: Vice Pres. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV)/House Maj. Whip Tim Ryan (D-OH) [2]
-def. 2024: Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)/Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)

2029-2037: Gov. Marco Rubio (R-FL)/House Min. Whip Elise Stefanik (R-NY) [3]
-def. 2028: Vice Pres. Tim Ryan (D-OH)/Sen. London Breed (D-CA); Rep. Stephen Miller (AF-CA)/Sen. Kris Kobach (R-KS) [4]
-def. 2032: Sen. Maj. Leader Cory Booker (D-NJ)/Sen. Jeff Jackson (D-NC)

1: The election results were not finalized until Dec. 1, 2020. The results of Michigan, the state that decided the election, necessitated a recount. Given that the tiebreaker was within the Arab/immigrant-heavy Dearborn area, Pres. Trump cried fowl, but the votes ended up being legitimate, and Sanders won the state and the election 281-257.

2: President Sanders resigned from office following a stroke on Nov. 23, 2023. Vice President Masto was inaugurated hours later.

3: After losing the 2022 senatorial election, Marco Rubio ran for and won the 2024 gubernatorial election. Noted for his more minority-friendly rhetoric and pivot towards a platform of Christian Democracy, Rubio defeated Vice President Ryan handily given the dour economic climate.

4. Following the effective purge of Trump hardliners from the GOP, Former cabinet member and representative of Dana Rohrbacher's former district founded the America First Party and ran on its ticket alongside Kris Kobach, the failed Kansas gubernatorial candidate who later succeeded Pat Roberts.