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Author Topic: Who should resign in Canada over the Waffen SS standing ovation?  (Read 2860 times)
President Punxsutawney Phil
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« on: September 26, 2023, 12:45:52 PM »
« edited: September 26, 2023, 01:07:41 PM by Punxsutawney Phil »

I vacillate between 1 and NOTA. In the end, the Speaker almost immediately apologized and there's more evidence to suggest lazy staff doing insufficient vetting is to blame for this as opposed to Rota loving people who fight for the SS, but there would be some benefit in aggregate from just one person resigning from a post and politicians getting the warning to be more discrete and mindful of the history. Also, the Speaker talking at length before Parliament about the evils of Generalplan Ost and promising to be more careful about history relating to the Jewish community would speak far more powerfully than any of these poll options excepting 5, but 5 is also utterly needless and overly disruptive when something smaller could do.
It's actually too early to say, because the depth of historical ignorance on this is too deep for us to expect politicians to have it any better than the Average Joe. Both don't know much on this topic, if we're being honest to ourselves.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2023, 05:49:36 PM »

I thank Frank for providing perspective that can get lost in outrages of the moment. As someone who finds our actions to scoop up Nazi talent completely correct in context, I think that, well, a lot of people are operating on basis of standards they would in practice fight like hell to avoid themselves, if the shoe was on the other foot.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2023, 06:07:49 PM »

It's pretty ludicrous to behave on the basis that Nazis are still a significant foe to keep in mind in 1950. Especially after the Berlin airlift, especially after the start of the Korean War, especially after everything that had happened over the past five years.
Von Braun is seen appropriately. He committed his sins, but he in good faith worked for this country as recompense. He helped us get into space sooner as well, which is what America actually needed.
A bust to Werner von Braun is not only completely justified but also a notice to how America was able to make good use of things the Nazis did for evil purposes, for good ones. This silly puritanism is a luxury nursed by those for whom they lose nothing by adopting it. It is plainly shortsighted. The idea that we would need to act like nothing had changed since 1940 is plainly nonsensical and I'm thankful that our leadership was more pragmatic than that. It was hard to get into space. Von Braun helped us get there.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2023, 09:32:08 PM »

It's time for a special military operation to denazify Canada.
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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2023, 02:47:08 AM »

Read the entire thread from start to finish, it's a great read.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2023, 07:44:53 AM »

Frank has taken the art of an apology farther than most of us are capable of, with a mea culpa apology. He's taking two weeks off the forum (with the singular exception of his song thread). He has not even responded to a PM from me asking about specifics of what he was letting himself do. A silence I'm taking as a 'No'.
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