Seattle hosts Segregated Diversity Training for Employees

[DrScholl]

You cannot offer the same diversity training to all employees because different people have different biases. A bias that a white person has isn't necessarily the same bias that a black person has. Plus the majority is going to feel far more secure in being biased because they feel they can get away. Some minorities feel they cannot be racist because they don't control the levers of institutionalized racism. It seems that a lot of people are ignorant of how complex these issues can be.

The people who really want to turn back the clock to the 1950s aren't the ones who created this training. It's conservatives who are always talking about how much better things were in the 1950s and even some progressives wanted to throw minorities under the bus after 2016 to make white working class voters feel better.

[DrScholl]

The people who really want to turn back the clock to the 1950s aren't the ones who created this training. It's conservatives who are always talking about how much better things were in the 1950s and even some progressives wanted to throw minorities under the bus after 2016 to make white working class voters feel better.

Neither of those statements are true.

Would you really be unhappy is things went back to how they were in the 1950s? You would probably think that your life was a lot better because "socialism" wasn't ruining it.

You cannot offer the same diversity training to all employees because different people have different biases. A bias that a white person has isn't necessarily the same bias that a black person has. Plus the majority is going to feel far more secure in being biased because they feel they can get away. Some minorities feel they cannot be racist because they don't control the levers of institutionalized racism. It seems that a lot of people are ignorant of how complex these issues can be.

The people who really want to turn back the clock to the 1950s aren't the ones who created this training. It's conservatives who are always talking about how much better things were in the 1950s and even some progressives wanted to throw minorities under the bus after 2016 to make white working class voters feel better.

Look at the content of the training. Do you really think hauling white people into classrooms and telling them "objectivity" is internalised racial superiority is helpful?

Some people think they have an increased ability to be objective based on a variety of factors that can include not just race, but also income, class, etc. It's not as simple as you think.

You cannot offer the same diversity training to all employees because different people have different biases. A bias that a white person has isn't necessarily the same bias that a black person has. Plus the majority is going to feel far more secure in being biased because they feel they can get away. Some minorities feel they cannot be racist because they don't control the levers of institutionalized racism. It seems that a lot of people are ignorant of how complex these issues can be.

We offer the same training to men and women for basically every job, even though in some cases the social dynamics are completely different.

That's fine, but it should be acknowledged that men and woman might come away from the training with different perceptions.

[DrScholl]

Also how is individualism "racist"?
If theres ever a moment that the word cultural Marxism actually makes sense one could use it here. I do wish there was a better word that captured that feeling without the anti-Semitic nature of Cultural Marxism.

Because some people take individualism to mean "I can do whatever I want to anyone because I'm an individual therefore only my concerns matter".

[DrScholl]

Also how is individualism "racist"?
If theres ever a moment that the word cultural Marxism actually makes sense one could use it here. I do wish there was a better word that captured that feeling without the anti-Semitic nature of Cultural Marxism.

Because some people take individualism to mean "I can do whatever I want to anyone because I'm an individual therefore only my concerns matter".

That doesn't mean individualism is racist. People's incorrect interpretations of various concepts does not define those concepts and terms like individualism and objectivity should not be surrendered to racists.

That's not what I'm saying. My point is that if people are misusing these terms to justify their biases then the training should highlight this.

Also how is individualism "racist"?
If theres ever a moment that the word cultural Marxism actually makes sense one could use it here. I do wish there was a better word that captured that feeling without the anti-Semitic nature of Cultural Marxism.

Individualism is racist because it forces you to judge a person by their own actions instead of by the group they belong to. Wokies don't realize that that's precisely what makes it not racist.

But plenty of conservatives don't judge people by their actions. Every time a Republican loses an election somehow it's because the "blacks" in the inner city stuffed the ballot boxes. When you stop doing that then maybe you can call yourselves individualists.

[DrScholl]

Also how is individualism "racist"?
If theres ever a moment that the word cultural Marxism actually makes sense one could use it here. I do wish there was a better word that captured that feeling without the anti-Semitic nature of Cultural Marxism.

Individualism is racist because it forces you to judge a person by their own actions instead of by the group they belong to. Wokies don't realize that that's precisely what makes it not racist.

But plenty of conservatives don't judge people by their actions. Every time a Republican loses an election somehow it's because the "blacks" in the inner city stuffed the ballot boxes. When you stop doing that then maybe you can call yourselves individualists.

"When you stop doing that?" Who is the "you" that you are referring to in that sentence? Republicans? If so, I'm not a Republican. Right-wingers in general? Well, if you'd like to paint the entire vast spectrum of the right, which covers everything from libertarian capitalism to ethno-fascism, with the same brush... then I guess that's your prerogative. But ironically, this is precisely why anti-individualism is so harmful. It allows you to judge an individual by their membership to a group instead of, you know, actually listening to what the person is saying to you.

I didn't say you were a Republican and specifically said conservatives. There are plenty of right-wingers from all over the spectrum who push the idea of voter fraud in black areas. Even moderate Mark Kirk said East St. Louis would jigger the vote against him. Really my point is that a lot of right-wingers want individualism for themselves, but like to judge people on which group they belong too.

[DrScholl]

I didn't say you were a Republican and specifically said conservatives. There are plenty of right-wingers from all over the spectrum who push the idea of voter fraud in black areas. Even moderate Mark Kirk said East St. Louis would jigger the vote against him. Really my point is that a lot of right-wingers want individualism for themselves, but like to judge people on which group they belong too.

Yeah, but you're not talking to "a lot of right-wingers" right now, you're talking to me. And I have never pushed a black voter fraud narrative on this site, ever. Do you see the irony here? In accusing me of making generalizations based on group, you yourself made a generalization based on my group.

But have you said it isn't true? There are two types of conservatives now: The ones who push conspiracies and those who ignore the extremism because they don't feel the need to challenge it. I don't care what you believe though, because you have a right to be as biased or unbiased as you want to. End of debate.

[DrScholl]

Also how is individualism "racist"?
If theres ever a moment that the word cultural Marxism actually makes sense one could use it here. I do wish there was a better word that captured that feeling without the anti-Semitic nature of Cultural Marxism.

Individualism is racist because it forces you to judge a person by their own actions instead of by the group they belong to. Wokies don't realize that that's precisely what makes it not racist.

But plenty of conservatives don't judge people by their actions. Every time a Republican loses an election somehow it's because the "blacks" in the inner city stuffed the ballot boxes. When you stop doing that then maybe you can call yourselves individualists.

"When you stop doing that?" Who is the "you" that you are referring to in that sentence? Republicans? If so, I'm not a Republican. Right-wingers in general? Well, if you'd like to paint the entire vast spectrum of the right, which covers everything from libertarian capitalism to ethno-fascism, with the same brush... then I guess that's your prerogative. But ironically, this is precisely why anti-individualism is so harmful. It allows you to judge an individual by their membership to a group instead of, you know, actually listening to what the person is saying to you.

I didn't say you were a Republican and specifically said conservatives. There are plenty of right-wingers from all over the spectrum who push the idea of voter fraud in black areas. Even moderate Mark Kirk said East St. Louis would jigger the vote against him. Really my point is that a lot of right-wingers want individualism for themselves, but like to judge people on which group they belong too.

My two cents. I can tell you from first-hand personal experience that Republicans overwhelmingly believe that "urban " voters commit wholesale voter fraud in most big cities.

That said, I really don't see why that reality impacts an analysis of "individualism".

Because a lot of people who use the term "individualism" like to be treated as an individual, but don't view others in the same manner. That is just one example of a bias. Personally the only people I've seen using the term "individualist" really aren't any less judgmental than anyone else.