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Col. Roosevelt
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« on: October 10, 2015, 09:08:18 PM »
Who would you say was/is the more charismatic candidate, Richard M. Nixon or Hillary Rodham Clinton?
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2015, 09:28:52 PM »
Hillary (doesn't think racism and anti-Semitism look good on a candidate)
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2015, 09:30:25 PM »
Quote from: DavidB. on October 10, 2015, 09:28:52 PM
Hillary (doesn't think racism and anti-Semitism look good on a candidate)

We're talking about actions as candidate, not as president. It's over man, it's not 1974 anymore. Vietnam is over. You can cease hating a dead guy.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2015, 09:33:17 PM »
Quote from: Col. Roosevelt on October 10, 2015, 09:30:25 PM
We're talking about actions as candidate, not as president. It's over man, it's not 1974 anymore. Vietnam is over. You can cease hating a dead guy.
Because he totally ceased to be a racist and an anti-Semite during campaigns... Roll Eyes Seriously, I don't like Hillary Clinton but I'd vote for her over Richard Nixon every day.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2015, 09:35:37 PM »
Nixon managed to convince people that he wasn't a crook. That's quite an achievement.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2015, 09:36:45 PM »
Quote from: DavidB. on October 10, 2015, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Col. Roosevelt on October 10, 2015, 09:30:25 PM
We're talking about actions as candidate, not as president. It's over man, it's not 1974 anymore. Vietnam is over. You can cease hating a dead guy.
Because he totally ceased to be a racist and an anti-Semite during campaigns... Roll Eyes Seriously, I don't like Hillary Clinton but I'd vote for her over Richard Nixon every day.

Actually, he did. Nixon in 1968 (his second run for the presidency, as 2016 is Hillary's) was very likeable.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2015, 09:38:54 PM »
Nixon managed to get a generation to hate protestors by calling them bums, and get people to believe in a secret plan to end the 'Nam War with no proof, while secretly doing the opposite.

Hillary can't even convince people that nothing happened just because she dared keep her regular email address.

Obviously Nixon's more charismatic here, but this is not a good thing.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2015, 09:40:48 PM »
Quote from: L.D. Smith, Knight of Appalachia on October 10, 2015, 09:38:54 PM
Nixon managed to get a generation to hate protestors by calling them bums, and get people to believe in a secret plan to end the 'Nam War with no proof, while secretly doing the opposite.

Hillary can't even convince people that nothing happened just because she dared keep her regular email address.

Obviously Nixon's more charismatic here, but this is not a good thing.

Nixon also won against the 1972 Bernie Sanders prototype. I wish Nixon was alive and able to run next year.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2015, 11:02:58 PM »
Nixon
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2015, 11:06:11 PM »
Hillary thinks she can just lie and triangulate like her husband, but her husband has a lot more charisma than her. As for Nixon, he clearly had more than her too, given his Checkers speech.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2015, 03:47:52 PM »
Quote from: DavidB. on October 10, 2015, 09:33:17 PM
Because he totally ceased to be a racist and an anti-Semite during campaigns... Roll Eyes Seriously, I don't like Hillary Clinton but I'd vote for her over Richard Nixon every day.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2015, 04:10:34 PM »
Nixon. Let's see...

1. The "Checkers" Speech.
2. He eventually won a Presidential election. Hillary may win 2016, but for now, all we know is that only Nixon has. I am not omnipotent, so this point still stands.
3. Nixon seemed clean by the public until Watergate. Clinton has been sullied by repeated scandals in a never-ending cycle.
4. Nixon somehow survived in between the Rockefeller and the Reagan/Goldwater camps of the GOP. Progressives are a wild card thorn in the side of Hillary at the moment.
5. Nixon was not able to keep clean around the press, but Hillary is far, far worse with handling the press. At least Nixon did not tie up reporters with rope. Remember how pivotal the press is to your public image.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2015, 08:38:06 PM »
I'd rate Nixon as the second (behind Reagan) most charismatic post-WWII GOP president.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2015, 10:28:14 PM »
Quote from: Phony Moderate on October 11, 2015, 08:38:06 PM
I'd rate Nixon as the second (behind Reagan) most charismatic post-WWII GOP president.

More than Ike? I think not!
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2015, 02:18:23 AM »
Quote from: Col. Roosevelt on October 10, 2015, 09:36:45 PM
Quote from: DavidB. on October 10, 2015, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Col. Roosevelt on October 10, 2015, 09:30:25 PM
We're talking about actions as candidate, not as president. It's over man, it's not 1974 anymore. Vietnam is over. You can cease hating a dead guy.
Because he totally ceased to be a racist and an anti-Semite during campaigns... Roll Eyes Seriously, I don't like Hillary Clinton but I'd vote for her over Richard Nixon every day.

Actually, he did. Nixon in 1968 (his second run for the presidency, as 2016 is Hillary's) was very likeable.

See this is the whole point. Charisma isn't about being a good person or a good administrator, it's about convincing others that you are. Nixon did so effectively. He cynically told half truths and some outright lies in order to successfully get elected. Mainstream American didn't know that he was an anti-Semite and even if they knew he was a racist a good portion of the electorate wouldn't have even cared. Nixon by a country mile.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2015, 12:57:39 PM »
Both of them are anti-charismatic. I suppose Hillary is less so, but that is both their crippling weakness.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2015, 04:12:47 PM »
Nixon was among our least charismatic presidents ever.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2015, 04:23:22 PM »
Why are people calling Nixon charismatic? I thought he was known for his introversion and poor people skills?
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2015, 06:04:43 PM »
I suppose he had a sort of dark unconventional charisma, in a certain fashion.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2015, 06:28:44 PM »
Nixon won. Hillary has yet to. That should answer any questions so far.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2015, 06:57:08 PM »
Nixon had a CREEP.
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2015, 04:58:12 AM »
Nixon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCsGSMze_6Q
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