Trump calls on Obama to resign (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 20, 2024, 10:08:41 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2016 U.S. Presidential Election
  Trump calls on Obama to resign (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Trump calls on Obama to resign  (Read 1413 times)
Seriously?
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,029
United States


« on: June 12, 2016, 03:38:30 PM »

Seriously, this is a moment to come together and Trump does this. F-ck him to hell and back. He speaks for a lot of people, too.
Come together to ban guns and not call a radical Islamic Terrorist a radical Islamic Terrorist? I am confused.

Ultimately, Trump is right. Denying that a terrorist that called 911 to pledge his allegiance to ISIS before killing 50 innocent people because of his hatred of gays is nothing other than a radical Islamic Terrorist is irresponsible.
Logged
Seriously?
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 3,029
United States


« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 05:30:53 PM »
« Edited: June 12, 2016, 05:33:46 PM by Seriously? »


Seriously, this is a moment to come together and Trump does this. F-ck him to hell and back. He speaks for a lot of people, too.

Come together?  On what basis?  I'm serious; for diverse folks to "come together", there has to be a basis for doing so.

At times like this, folks don't need to "come together" on any other basis than the mutual abhorrence of the taking of human life.  Why that seems so difficult is what begs a discussion.  They need coherent, truthful, answers as to how something like this happened, why something like this happened, and straight talk about their safety.  They don't need to me moralized by politicians that they consider immoral, rightly or wrongly. 

They won't get this from their leaders.

They'll get another diatribe about "gun violence".  Since the victims were disproportionately gay, there will be platitudes about "tolerance" as a sop to the LGBT constituency, using a tragedy to advance other issues that many folks are still undecided about (e. g. including "sexual orientation" as a protected class, along with race, creed, color, and national origin).  Left unsaid (by Obama and Clinton, anyway) will be the contradiction between tolerance for LGBT folks (one Democratic constituency) with the religious beliefs of many American Muslims, beliefs that include the tenets of Sharia Law.  Perhaps this tension between two specific constituencies within the Democratic Party is why Obama seems to have the inability to say the words "Radical Islamic Terrorists" when assigning blame in such incidents.  And, of course, we'll hear how "all Muslims aren't to blame", etc., something we hear a lot of, but rarely do we hear a prominent Muslim denounce Sharia Law.

What American's need is leaders who won't pretend that Sharia Law and Jihad is, somehow, not a part of Islam.  What Americans need are leaders that are willing to cut off immigration to groups and individuals whose world view is opposed to liberal democracy and a republican form of government, and who would use our democratic institutions to end the freedoms they are designed to protect.  What Americans need is an honest, non-hysterical discussion of Radical Islamic Terror and America's vulnerability to it. 








The truthful answer is a man on the fbi terror watch list went out last week and legally purchased a hand gun and an assault rifle. There was a bill voted down by senate republicans last year that would have prevented him from doing so. It doesnt seem that complicated to me.
Nice try. Your narrative would work, IF this scumbag were on a watchlist... The reporting says otherwise. Yes, he was interviewed twice by the FBI for associations with known jihadists, but they concluded both times that the associations were unsubstantiated.

Likely due process rights getting in the way of placing him on that list.

From the BBC:

"Despite being on the FBI's radar, Manteen, who worked as a security guard, was not on an official terrorism watch list and was able to legally hold a state firearms licence, according to Florida records."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36513468

Oh, them pesky facts.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.023 seconds with 11 queries.