Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[TheSaint250]

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

[TheSaint250]

It's time to scrap this and move onto tax reform and infrastructure GOP.

Please

[Yank2133]

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

They can't, because they are not honest with themselves.

[Dr. Arch]

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

They don't want a better option; they never did. They wanted to win election and screw people over while they get their nice fat checks in office.

[Middle-aged Europe]

To kill that bill would mean admitting that the Emperor has no clothes. Therefore they can't.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

Summary:

# of more people uninsured would be:
14 million by 2018
21 million by 2020
24 million by 2026

Total # uninsured in 2026 would be 52 million.

But, Medicaid slashes would reduce the deficit over 10 years by $337 Billion.

B-b-but the CBO hasn't even read the bill. FAKE report!

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

The GOP can always spin it like: "It's not that 22 million people are LOSING their health care but it's more like 22 million people are just GAINING 'muh liberty' "

You mean 22 million now have "choices."

They can now decide if they want to die from lung cancer or heart disease.

[Suburbia]

Health care is just too dangerous complicated. It's like high auto insurance rates.

[ProudModerate2]

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

LOL.
You just don't get it TheSaint ..... the GOP considers this (and the House's version) as a "good bill." You just don't want to admit that the GOP will kill (make ill) so many people.
Get a grip ..... this is who they are !

[The Other Castro]

Jennifer Epstein @jeneps
Sen. Cassidy on the CBO score's effect on his vote, on CNN: "It certainly makes me more concerned. It makes me want to explore this more."

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/879439458562658304

[Dr. Arch]

Jennifer Epstein @jeneps
Sen. Cassidy on the CBO score's effect on his vote, on CNN: "It certainly makes me more concerned. It makes me want to explore this more."

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/879439458562658304

-_-

[Middle-aged Europe]

Jennifer Epstein @jeneps
Sen. Cassidy on the CBO score's effect on his vote, on CNN: "It certainly makes me more concerned. It makes me want to explore this more."

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/879439458562658304

Look, Bill Cassidy wants to embark on an exploration!! He apparently thinks he's the Christopher Columbus of the 21st century! Get him on the f**king Santa María. Let's see what he finds out while being in the Bermuda Triangle!!

[TheSaint250]

I still want a better alternative, but something led by Heller and Collins, for example, not McConnell

[The Other Castro]

Rand Paul says he will vote NO on the motion to proceed for this bill.

Mike Lee also says he will not vote to proceed on the bill.

Lindsey Graham says McConnell will lose his vote if he starts buying skeptical Senators off (using the increased deficit reduction savings).

This very well might end on Wednesday.

[Yank2133]

Rand Paul says he will vote NO on the motion to proceed for this bill.

Mike Lee also says he will not vote to proceed on the bill.

Lindsey Graham says McConnell will lose his vote if he starts buying skeptical Senators off (using the increased deficit reduction savings).

This very well might end on Wednesday.

Mitch will throw them a bone and dare Collins and Murkowski to not vote for it.

[Gass3268]

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Collins is a no

[ApatheticAustrian]

if collins and heller are honest, cruz, lee and rand are all needed.....

[ProudModerate2]

As the bill stands right now, I think it will fail.

[The Mikado]

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Collins is a no

Collins is closer to a "Not yet" or "Not without Amendment" than a no. The subsequent tweets in that series indicate that she might be open to it with an amendment to siphon off extra cash to rural Maine.

As the bill stand right now, I think it will fail.

This is true, but McConnell won't present it as it stands right now. He'll try to buy off Collins and Murkowski with amendments shoveling cash to Alaska and Maine.

[Yank2133]

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Collins is a no

Collins is closer to a "Not yet" or "Not without Amendment" than a no. The subsequent tweets in that series indicate that she might be open to it with an amendment to siphon off extra cash to rural Maine.

As the bill stand right now, I think it will fail.

This is true, but McConnell won't present it as it stands right now. He'll try to buy off Collins and Murkowski with amendments shoveling cash to Alaska and Maine.

Not sure about that.

I think McConnell will put this up regardless if he has the votes or not. He wants to be done with this issue and move on to tax reform.

[Kingpoleon]

If these s***ty bills keep getting proposed with no changes, I will start saying "F*** it. Keep damn Obamacare"

For the love of God, GOP, get a good bill

The FPA of 2017 is the only bill I've seen any GOP members propose that isn't ridiculous.

[Yank2133]

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Collins is a no

Collins is closer to a "Not yet" or "Not without Amendment" than a no. The subsequent tweets in that series indicate that she might be open to it with an amendment to siphon off extra cash to rural Maine.

As the bill stand right now, I think it will fail.

This is true, but McConnell won't present it as it stands right now. He'll try to buy off Collins and Murkowski with amendments shoveling cash to Alaska and Maine.

Not sure about that.

I think McConnell will put this up regardless if he has the votes or not. He wants to be done with this issue and move on to tax reform.

McConnell will not embarrass himself. He'd pull it before it cones to that

I don't think he cares what people will think of him if this bill flops. His goal is to be done with healthcare and move on. Pulling this bill will allow healthcare to remain a live issue and the longer healthcare is a live issue, the more problematic it becomes for the GOP.

[Gass3268]

Meadows says that the Senate bill isn't conservative enough to pass in the House.

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[The_Doctor]

Meadows says that the Senate bill isn't conservative enough to pass in the House.

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This all feels like they're setting up the bill to fail. Collins seems to have been the one to signal the mood is now about ACA stabilization. But it's too close to call.

I think Ron Johnson is for the bill. Paul, Murkowski, Heller, Collins all have major reasons to oppose the law based on their state profiles and when they're up for reelection. I think Capito might be able to vote yes.

Also on my radar: Flake of Arizona. He's from a marginal Trump state. With lots of old people.

[The_Doctor]

Meadows says that the Senate bill isn't conservative enough to pass in the House.

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This all feels like they're setting up the bill to fail. Collins seems to have been the one to signal the mood is now about ACA stabilization. But it's too close to call.

I think Ron Johnson is for the bill. Paul, Murkowski, Heller, Collins all have major reasons to oppose the law based on their state profiles and when they're up for reelection. I think Capito might be able to vote yes.

Also on my radar: Flake of Arizona. He's from a marginal Trump state. With lots of old people.

Flake supports it, and Murkowski and Paul don't really have a real electoral reason to oppose it. Opposing it may make them the 51st vote that saved Obamacare. That wouldn't be good for a primary

True. I don't know .

But Collins' Twitter statement specifically alludes to shoring up ObamaCare. I don't know but if she - a 2020 - is making that statement I am starting to think that the 2020 people are figuring the healthcare markets won't be stable enough by then. It makes me think she said it specifically because she knows there isn't support for the law within the Senate. She's not supposed to be on the pass list as she's up in Maine and she's a fairly loyal Republican.

She wouldn't be doing this if she didn't calculate the numbers. She's not one to go on a limb alone. With the other statements coming right after her I suspect a stampede to say no. The senators, I feel, want an off ramp now.

But I could be wrong…