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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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« on: September 21, 2019, 07:33:53 PM »

Great news, Warren-Beto 2020
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2019, 08:36:47 PM »

Dems should never coronate frontrunners, as we found out in 2016, Hilary was a weaker candidate than expected. Warren, like Sanders, is scandal free. Biden like Hilary have scandals. As a result, workers party endorsed Warren
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2019, 10:18:41 PM »

SN is trolling, any credible challenger can beat Trump, Dems arent socialistic, voters dont want ethically challenged people like Biden and Trump, whom have dealings with Ukraine and Big Oil
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2019, 05:34:48 AM »
« Edited: September 22, 2019, 05:38:30 AM by Cory Booker »

SN is trolling, any credible challenger can beat Trump, Dems arent socialistic, voters dont want ethically challenged people like Biden and Trump, whom have dealings with Ukraine and Big Oil

WTF are you talking about? The only "scandal" involving Biden in Ukraine is that he represented the administration's (and international commununity's) overwhelming position in calling for the ouster of a crooked prosecutor because he was NOT prosecuting corruption cases, including the one against the company his son was affiliated with. The entire thing makes no sense if you think about it for more than two seconds.

Besides, I thought you were one of the ones who was going around talking about how Biden was a total shoe-in?

As of now I support Warren, but the one thing I have ALWAYS supported and always will is rationality -- I don't see much of that in people who jump from one extreme conclusion to another and disregard the facts. Which unfortunately is like 90% of this board.

I only was talking about Biden being a shoe-in when Harris candidacy cratered. I was always against Biden and his positions on school segregation and have not donated a single penny to his campaign, or sign any of his petitions.  As I have donated to others and their campaign. This would continue if he is the nominee.

Republicans thinks Warren is beatable. The best is yet to come, cant wait to see who she picks as Veep
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
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Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2019, 07:10:57 PM »

Warren said she will pivot to the center once she wins nomination.  She endorses: impeaching Trump, raising minimum wage, 401 K accounts on top of SSA, and DC statehood.   Medicare for all and student loan forgiveness and teparations are tokens.
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2019, 10:16:59 AM »

She underperformed Clinton last year, I mean she was the only incumbent democratic senator to do so (with Menendez). She is toxic with white non college voters, and would underperform in wealthy suburbs, nominating her would be a gift to Trump.

And Republicans nominating extremist Ronald Reagan was a gift to Jimmy Carter.
And Democrats nominating draft-dodging philanderer Bill Clinton was a gift to Bush sr.



And what’s your point ? Are you denying that Warren was one the of the only two democratic incumbent senator up in last year to underperform Clinton ? It’s a fact, whether you like it or not.



If she is so weak and underperformed Clinton, why is she beating Biden in IA, in a GOP tiilt state? Nominating Biden, whom is scandalous, is risky as well. We nominated Hilary and saw that scandals can hurt your election chances as well. Hilary was thought to be stronger than Bernie
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2019, 11:06:40 AM »
« Edited: September 23, 2019, 11:09:55 AM by Cory Booker »

This was a case made for the Biden candidacy, before the Ukraine story.  Warren is still up 46/40 ahead of Trump in the Fox polls, and Trump is at 43%approval in WI, MI and PA. Warren wants to eliminate the tax cuts for the wealthy, that lost the GOP its majority, in 2018, in the House.

If you want to compare elections, Warren beat a very good Scott Brown in 2012, thats why she is doing well against Joe Biden. She beat Mitt Romney's protege. She knows how to win tough elections
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2019, 12:17:10 PM »

In 2012, she campaigned hard and beat Scott Brown, that contradicts the unelectable part. She campaigned in IA for Braley, but Branstad was too popular in IA for Braley to win, 2014. Plus Braley made the gaffe

Winning a blowout in MA sen with smallar than usual margins, doesnt mean much in a GE arguement.  But women, underperform in MA, except in 2012. Shanon O'Brien lost to Gov Rommey in 2002 and Coakly lost to Scott Brown in 2010
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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
olawakandi
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 89,134
Jamaica
Political Matrix
E: -6.84, S: -0.17


« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2019, 04:56:10 PM »

In the primary, minorities arent needed for her IA, NH, NV and Cali strategy.

In general election, Beto is a huge hit with Latinos and picking him will be wise, as Veep. Blacks are gonna fall in line when Booker and Harris tells Blacks to unite behind the nominee
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