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Question: Gay marriage in new states? / DOMA struck down?
#1
No / No
 
#2
No / Yes
 
#3
California only / No
 
#4
California only / Yes
 
#5
Nationwide / Yes
 
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 25, 2013, 11:16:03 PM »

The only right scenario is Prop 8 and DOMA stand. Anything deviating from that would be simply seen as judicial activism. And add to it that all GLBT couples in California's "marriage licences are void"

The people of California have spoken and it's that gay marriage is banned.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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United States


« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2013, 02:19:15 AM »

Holding that the Constitution gives exclusive power to the States to regulate marriage is at once silly and horrible public policy. Gays moving to those certain states will have to endue their marriages being effectively terminated from now until rocks cool. The whole idea of gay marriages being recognized in some states, and not others, simply is not sustainable over the long term, and raises disturbing issues as to whether the right to travel is effectively being eviscerated, with the burden on gays in traveling to some states just shocking to the conscience.

Plus DOMA is about cutting off federal benefits. Does Congress not have the right to decide who gets federal benefits, and who does not?  Of course it does, unless there are equal protection issues. So we get back to equal protection. There is no escape from that.

Anyway, the point is that if States have exclusive jurisdiction, then Congress in the future will have no power to pass legislation that gay marriages must be recognized everywhere. Well, maybe they could withhold funds from states that don't, but if states have exclusive jurisdiction, then that raises undue burden or coercion issues on the States, which is an issue as to which Kennedy is particularly sensitive, as he opined in the Obamacare case.

SCOTUS would be wise to just butt out, and let this matter be resolved at the ballot box. We know now what the result

 will be if that is the case. There is no turning back.

The result will not be in favor of gay marriage.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 12:55:29 PM »

Fortunately, JCL, you're a member of an increasingly small minority.

That is where you would be glaringly wrong. Gay marriage is like taking a Rembrandt and spraying graffiti on it. Plus there is more who agree with me than you think and we're the majority.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 10:30:25 PM »

Fortunately, JCL, you're a member of an increasingly small minority.

That is where you would be glaringly wrong. Gay marriage is like taking a Rembrandt and spraying graffiti on it. Plus there is more who agree with me than you think and we're the majority.

A) Comparing heterosexual marriage to the works of Rembrandt is an insult to Rembrandt.

B) Proof? How do you know how many people, nationwide (not just in some goddamn podunk town in Indiana), support or oppose gay marriage? How do you know?

The burden of proof is on your side not mine. Besides how is it an insult to Rembrandt to use the comparison of traditional marriage vs gay marriage? You're trying to overturn the whole of human history in the name of moral relativity when this issue should be a non sequitur. With regards to the ratio of support vs opposition to gay marriage in Indiana the state is at least 60 against 30 for and ten not sure. We as a state want to ban and its wrong for the SCOTUS to say we can't. California banned it and that's something the pro-gay marriage crowd just can't stand.
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MyRescueKittehRocks
JohanusCalvinusLibertas
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,763
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 05:09:52 PM »

That won't be a problem on my end. What its a mixed outcome and both sides get victories tomorrow?
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