Office of Chairman TNF: Red Army takes NM, UT, ID, AZ

[tmthforu94]

Best of luck!

[tmthforu94]

How would you seek to change the labor relations bill I and the center-left Assembly passed in January?

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I think some of them could  be combined to speed things up a bit.

Though I disagree with a lot of it, it's good to see my Senator getting actively involved. Keep up the good work, TNF!

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Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would be more concerned about the fact that only two Midwest citizens bothered to even vote in the poll.

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Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would be more concerned about the fact that only two Midwest citizens bothered to even vote in the poll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mPlXwpJ1I8

I think I'd have to disapprove of the job you're doing and/or not like you personally to be classified a "hater", and neither is the case.

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What a great way to win over the support of your constituents...

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What a great way to win over the support of your constituents...

>implying you were going to vote for me anyway

Before you starting going on this Federalist rampage a couple weeks ago, yes, I'm fairly certain I would have voted to re-elect you.

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Congratulations!

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Taking a page from Senator Gass and TNF's debating tactics...

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Senator, this is the elephant in the room.  How do you explain your complete and total defense of Xahar, while at the same time utterly condemning Napoleon?  Are your actions and behaviors regarding these two individuals based on anything at all, other than your personal relationship with each of them?

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Thank you, Senator, for continuing to remind me why I'm supporting your opponent.

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Guys, I would appreciate it if everyone would stop empty-quoting me.  It is clear that the Senator has chosen not to answer my question, so lets all stop beating a dead horse.  If you feel that TNF must be asked these questions again, please put it in your own words.

Sorry Fritz - I believe it was only done as a way to emphasize the point that Senator TNF is adamant about refusing to answer a question posed by constituents.

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Senator, what would your response be to critics who say your only focus in the Senate is pushing your own legislation through and that you rarely contribute to anything else? Other than one far-left amendment, you haven't really commented much on the Duke Corporate Tax Reform Act of 2013. You haven't posted at all in the On Third Thought, We Do Have Expectations Amendment or the Healthcare Modernization Act. And your only contribution to the Pacific Emergency Stimulus was suggesting the Pacific should be merged with the Midwest, then later stating your agreement with a detailed statement made by Talleyrand and expressing your support for Oakvale. Your only contribution to the Let The Regions Get Their Highway Money Act was showing up to vote. Introducing multiple pieces of legislation is fine and dandy, but you seem to be doing very little in terms of actual debate.

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Controversial legislation is a problem by itself

Why? If everyone has to agree with your legislation before you even propose it, what's the point of having a deliberative body?

Sorry, my bad, it was supposed to read: "Controversial legislation is not necessarily a problem by itself, but it is a problem when you are not willing to work with the rest of the Senate". But the point remains that some bills are just way too controversial to be considered serious. Just look at the widespread reaction to the Labor bill to change the names of several airports or the TNF Rational Education Act, or the backlash at the abortion bills in the Mideast. Is not only the (sometimes) bills that go too far, but many times has TNF rejected any possible compromise, thus destroying any chance of those bills to actually pass the Senate. Besides, most of the time the defense of his legislation is based on personal attacks, thus making the whole thing even more pointless.

I apologize, but that's just inaccurate. If nothing else, TNF is perfectly willing to compromise on his legislation, and almost never objects to watering down his own legislation, which I personally have been known to do from time to time.

Sorry Tyrion, but that's simply not true.

[tmthforu94]

Senator TNF,

How many more liberals do you think need to register in the Midwest before your re-election campaign is assured victory?

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Senator TNF,

How many more liberals do you think need to register in the Midwest before your re-election campaign is assured victory?

I'm confused. So you are now opposed to people of different political persuasions than yours registering in the Midwest?

That's not what I said at all - quit twisting my words.

Also, it would be nice if the Senator would spend a little more time actually debating legislation and a little less time coming up with silly lyrics that attacks his opponents.

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Senator TNF,

How many more liberals do you think need to register in the Midwest before your re-election campaign is assured victory?

I demand an apology, Senator. How dare you tarnish my reputation as the avatar of the Atlasian far-left by sullying me as a "liberal"?

I never said you were a liberal - you're clearly a socialist. Please don't put words in my mouth.

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Senator TNF,

How many more liberals do you think need to register in the Midwest before your re-election campaign is assured victory?

I'm confused. So you are now opposed to people of different political persuasions than yours registering in the Midwest?

That's not what I said at all - quit twisting my words.

Also, it would be nice if the Senator would spend a little more time actually debating legislation and a little less time coming up with silly lyrics that attacks his opponents.

No one is twisting your words, so there's no need to play victim here. Your passive-aggressive shtick is just getting a bit too hackneyed.

I'm also confused as to why you're attacking TNF's activity record of all things. Whether or not you like the rhetoric he uses, he has consistently been among the two or three most active, if not the most active, Senator since he was elected in June of last year. He's certainly more active than you or I.

Passive-aggressive? I've been fairly vocal and upfront about my complaints with TNF for quite a while now, and considering he is my regional senator, I think I have every right to.

If you only determine an active senator as one who introduces a bunch of legislation and then defends it by attacking the right, then yes, TNF is the most active senator. But as I've brought up before, he rarely contributes to legislation that isn't his own, and I have a problem when my Senator barely comments on half of the legislation in the Senate, and I know others feel the same. I have already brought forth facts that back that up, and I will continue to do so until TNF actually does something about it. He is far from being the most active Senator - a laughable claim. I may not introduce as much legislation as he does, but I think I certainly contribute more to the actual debate of legislation, as do several other Senators.

I'm not just bringing up these criticisms because I want TNF to lose next month - I'm bringing them up because I think they're valid concerns that I'd hope my regional senator will address. While he hasn't commented on this yet, hopefully it is something he will be more conscious of and will improve on, because if he's elected next month, I'd rather not have four more months of this.

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Calling posts "retarded"?? I didn't even think you would stoop so low, Senator.

The personal attacks have simply gone too far - it amazes me how so many Laborites continue to turn such a blind eye to this. This game is no longer fun when people make posts filled with personal attacks and hatrid.

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I have a family member who is mentally-handicapped and has struggled his entire life with individuals making fun of him for it. There is nothing amusing to me about people saying "retarded" in a derogatory way, and I frankly have no respect for anyone who uses such offensive language (not that you care about having my respect).

If you are going to start making such offensive statements, maybe you are taking this game just a bit too seriously, Senator.

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I have a family member who is mentally-handicapped and has struggled his entire life with individuals making fun of him for it. There is nothing amusing to me about people saying "retarded" in a derogatory way, and I frankly have no respect for anyone who uses such offensive language (not that you care about having my respect).

If you are going to start making such offensive statements, maybe you are taking this game just a bit too seriously, Senator.

There's nothing amusing to me about insincere trolling on your part and taking advantage of politically correct bulls**t to your own ends. If that's not the case, where were you condemning Napoleon?

I wish I could say this was all just insincere trolling and that hurtful words mean as little to me as they do to you. But I've seen the pain firsthand that this word has had, and it's not something that I play games with....

The only post I have ever seen where Napoleon used that word was on this board, and I reported the post. As I said before, I have no tolerance for people using that word, no matter who they are. I am extremely disappointed that Napoleon has used such language on numerous occasions. 

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The idea of universal housing is intriguing - it is something Utah has been attempting to do with relative success. I was actually thinking earlier today about trying to create some sort of pilot program for it (as a regionalist, I'm skeptical to fully implement it at the federal level), but would be happy to try and help out on it if you'd like.

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How do you explain defending Xahar for inactivity while condemning Napoleon?

Everyone loves a success story. Xahar got elected by TNF and Co. on a platform of inactivity. In other words, expectations were met. When Xahar resigned and accepted reappointment, expectations were exceeded because drama is good. I was elected by people who believed I would be an active and engaged senator and I failed to be that. When I resigned and tried to allow someone better to take office, it was part of an elaborate and predetermined scheme to troll the game, which I was able to do by preemptivelg reading the mind of RG Fritz to know how he would judge ones registration.

How do you explain defending yourself while condemning Xahar for inactivity?

I don't know how he's defending his activity, considering he said he failed at his job.