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« on: October 22, 2019, 05:11:07 PM »

It's up to 170k now*

https://globalnews.ca/news/6065702/2019-federal-election-alberta-separation-canada/

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Mount Royal University political scientist Duane Bratt said he expects Alberta’s separation movement to heat up.

“You have this large cohort of Conservative MPs. How does the government function? How does the Trudeau government function? What is (Alberta Premier Jason) Kenney’s response?” Bratt said. “I think this is a real danger to national unity.”

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Mount Royal University political analyst David Taras shared similar sentiments.

“Let’s face it, the anger and alienation in western Canada is real and this government will have to deal with it,” Taras said.

“There’s a sense of just awful alienation, of really feeling deeply offended and I think the (Trudeau) government has to really take a look at what it has to do in terms of energy policy and pipelines in order to get any kind of hearing here.”

On Oct. 20, the Facebook group VoteWexit.com had just over 2,000 members. By Tuesday morning, the group’s membership had skyrocketed to more than 135,000* members.

The group is calling for the separation of western Canada from the rest of the country.

“We’re going to be free from the blood-sucking, parasitic relationship we have with eastern Canada right now,” Wexit Alberta founder Peter Downing said.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2019, 05:58:42 PM »

If Quebec is still part of Canada after hundreds of years....Alberta is going nowhere.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 06:35:09 PM »

If Quebec is still part of Canada after hundreds of years....Alberta is going nowhere.

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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 07:05:52 PM »

Go for it. They'll come back begging after their oil gets out of fashion in roughtly 2 decades.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 07:17:41 PM »

Yawn.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2019, 09:18:23 PM »

Do it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 05:50:59 AM »

Haven't they always really belonged to "Jesusland" anyway?
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 10:13:14 AM »

So Alberta leaves... then what? You're gonna negotiate from some imagined position of strength to get concessions from the rest of Canada? Are you gonna keep the loonie?

And that doesn't even touch on how it'd work with the treaties in place with the First Nations, Métis, & Inuit peoples. I mean, do you really think that the Blood Tribe in southern Alberta wants to be governed by sour-grape xenophobes?

Get real, Alberta. It's not happening.
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 10:19:17 AM »

I wonder what their relations will be like with the Republic of California.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2019, 08:28:39 PM »

If Quebec is still part of Canada after hundreds of years....Alberta is going nowhere.

Canada isn't hundreds of years old.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2019, 08:54:25 PM »

Entitled rich regions need to grow the f**k up and stop throwing temper tantrums every time the country goes a different way than they'd prefer. That's true for Alberta, for California and for Northern Italy.
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2019, 09:19:10 PM »

Reminds me of that stupid calexit stuff in 2017
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2019, 09:28:31 PM »

Thats fine, they can join us if they want.  We definitely don't need a new unstable, nationalist, and angry country on our border though..  So if they're going to try and go it on their own, a peace keeping force will be necessary to secure the oil.
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2019, 10:53:35 PM »

Canadian sectionalism is kind of spooky in a way that I don't see as cleanly in the US. I thought that climate change would benefit Canada but may have to reevaluate based on social regional trends
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2019, 08:52:16 AM »

Entitled rich regions need to grow the f**k up and stop throwing temper tantrums every time the country goes a different way than they'd prefer. That's true for Alberta, for California and for Northern Italy.
I’d agree, but for Italy. Most Venetians want independence, regardless of their wealth or class. (56.3% of all eligible voters voted for independence. (Turnout 63.2%, Yes Independence 89.1%)
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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2019, 09:33:27 PM »

Entitled rich regions need to grow the f**k up and stop throwing temper tantrums every time the country goes a different way than they'd prefer. That's true for Alberta, for California and for Northern Italy.
I’d agree, but for Italy. Most Venetians want independence, regardless of their wealth or class. (56.3% of all eligible voters voted for independence. (Turnout 63.2%, Yes Independence 89.1%)

That was a purely symbolic, non-binding publicity stunt asking about ill-defined "autonomy". It has no political legitimacy and even less legal value. People voted yes to say "F you" to the government of the day.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2019, 01:52:16 AM »

Remember that in 1998 the Canadian Supreme Court declared that Quebec could not break away on its own, as the Canadian Constitution did not contain any provisions for such an act, and Quebec did not meet the international definition of a "colonial"/"oppressed" people group.
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« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2019, 07:58:05 AM »

Let's not overreact here. Wexit won't be a thing. The real story here is that Westerners are feeling sufficiently alienated from the federation to publicly muse about seperating. That's a real problem and should be dealt with, but it's a totally different issue than actual seperatism.
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2019, 03:39:42 PM »

"The result: There now are more than 560 licensed stores across Canada, but more than half are in Alberta, the fourth-largest province.  Ontario and Quebec, which together make up two-thirds of Canada’s population, have only about 45 shops between them."

We should invite the stoners in.
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2019, 02:53:51 AM »

Separatism is highly unlikely, but I do think with climate change being a major issue, many in those provinces worry that other parts of the country are openly hostile to the energy industry and that needs to be dealt with.  I also think big government like in 70s has become popular again in many provinces while in Prairies people still favour smaller government so the gulf on role of government has widened but things go in cycles so I think long term one will move towards the other, just a matter of when.
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