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« on: January 02, 2019, 04:44:18 PM »



(For the 3,267th time): If Obama had said this...
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 04:45:12 PM »

Truth.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 04:52:42 PM »

The commies invading Afghanistan is what destabilized Afghanistan in the first place
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 05:14:37 PM »

He's right. Afghanistan was filled with terrorist filth, spreading their terrorists to neighbouring Soviet republics (Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan) possibly to cause a rebellion there too. What would you have done in that situation?
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 05:14:40 PM »

The commies invading Afghanistan is what destabilized Afghanistan in the first place
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 05:20:27 PM »

The Intervention in this war was handled in a way that can be only considered a ****fest. First, we let weapon transfers he determined by a newly Islamist Pakistan, a country infused with an ideology that was evident that the bone will be picked later on to anyone knowledgeable about this issue. By then, books by Hassan Al-Bana and Wahhabi clerics were secretly circulated, including in then US-funded Madrasahs in Peshawar. If you would have just learned about them a bit, you’d see that they really hate those imperialists right across the Bosporus for previous grievances.

We then ignored all the awful warning signs and deteriorating situation over there. The Taliban began harboring extremists almost instantly, with new knowledge and arms being transported across the world. We could have gotten rid of the Taliban, putting our eggs in people with less ideologically internationalist tendencies, such as Ahmed Shah Massoud and the Northern Alliance then in the 90s. Instead we just up and ignored what was even then a major global security risk.

In many ways, our policies didn’t change. We still are trying to get rid of those Baathists of yesteryear. with the Islamists now. Admittably, it isn’t a perfect analogy, our TOW delivery is now directly run by us. But we don’t understand again that the FSA was a divided, unstable amalgamation of people. In contrast to the smaller at the time, but more centralized internationally focused Islamists, we didn’t look at the fact that trade and detection between groups were possible. We also didn’t look at the Gulf states giving our weapons to those detestable groups.

What did we get out of the fight against Communism? We got global flight from people escaping pro-Western imperialist despots from the Soviet Union’s imperialistic encroachment. What could have been solved by establishing democratic processes was too much for the businesses in America and Europe to bear. Now look at this blowback, global commerce is threatened once again and those nasty anti-liberal folks are on Europe’s borders in the form of populist parties. Truly a great success. A success that is being repeated by today’s fight against terror or the “Axis of Evil”. We’re still allied with the Saudis, we still are destabilizing already bad situations, and we still are looking forward to acting on our own unilateral interests without looking at blowback.

On more direct “topicality”, Trump obviously is being contrarian, something he does when he is angry at the less terrible adults in the room. Let us not forget that what was done then is being done now on his orders, in Yemen of all places. We’re repeating the same mistakes as before, but this time I know that with the current leadership, it could go South much more potently. Hopefully I’m wrong, and that the current damage is temporary, but logic proves otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 05:27:38 PM »

The commies invading Afghanistan is what destabilized Afghanistan in the first place
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 05:29:21 PM »

The Soviet invasion along with Operation Cyclone conducted by the CIA is what led to the creation of the Taliban.
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 05:31:44 PM »

The Soviet invasion along with Operation Cyclone conducted by the CIA is what led to the creation of the Taliban.
The solution is to be against any act of imperialistic aggression and work to world stability and progress instead of unitary gains for the few elites.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 05:51:05 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 05:56:48 PM »

I "endorse" the invasion too, but only because it hastened the fall of the Soviet Union, not because I think the commies were somehow justified.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 06:56:19 PM »

Doesn’t Trump know that only Americans are allowed to bomb brown people for resources and geopolitical influence??
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 07:07:07 PM »


Two coups in 5 years is stable? By Australian Labor Party standards, perhaps...
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 08:22:29 PM »

I think Old School Republican meant that the Taliban's formation was a reaction to the USSR invading.
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 08:33:29 PM »


Not sure this applies anymore.
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2019, 08:59:20 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2019, 06:11:21 PM »

David Frum had a good question:


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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2019, 06:12:34 PM »


David Frum has no good questions, and even worse answers.
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2019, 06:35:13 PM »

Lmao
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2019, 04:49:36 PM »

He's right. Afghanistan was filled with terrorist filth, spreading their terrorists to neighbouring Soviet republics (Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan) possibly to cause a rebellion there too. What would you have done in that situation?

You're obviously unfamiliar with the history of Afghanistan.
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