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« on: January 20, 2016, 10:44:48 PM »

Many states like VT, NH, and ME were already trending in the 70's. Some were close in 1980 too.  In the 80's they went red but so did just about all other states.  Since 1988 we really haven't been competitive except for NH and PA.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 12:20:11 AM »

New Hampshire was solid Republican in the 1980s. It was one of Reagan's best states both times and Bush Sr.'s second best.

NH is a good point but an exception to other northern states.  By north I mean northeast but MI and IL can apply.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2016, 07:40:56 PM »

The prior post was more accurate, as sentimemt towards Vietnam grew, the North began to merge from the South

As far as the income tax in 1916, the gap between rich and poor began to take effect and in 2008 realignmemt with Obama, as incomes fell, and no real wage growth, the North votes solid Democrat. And away from GOP.

Taxes reinforce income gaps?  Maybe it doesn't work then.
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2016, 09:49:16 PM »

Yeah, Social Security has failed to keep up with the rich, as the cap on SSA tax  havent been raised and needs to, as Boomers retire.

Anti-rich jargon comes from Obama.  You are proof he's brainwashed over a third of our country.  Why do you think you're entitled to rich people's money when you're lucky just to be part of the U.S.?  Did you grow up getting everything handed to you from rich parents and now you just think everyone owes you their hard earned income?  Perhaps you just think you're better than everyone else.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2016, 09:55:18 PM »

I didnt say that I am entitled to rich income. Poor people pay over 1/3rd of income in SSA, Rich people only a 1/4th. Boomers are taking all of SSA taxes. Our Generation isnt going come close to taking that type of money out of treasury.

Define rich and poor.  Your generation will work until the day they die, yes.  What about it? It's not fair you can't retire and relax for the last 10-20 years of your life?
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2016, 01:37:11 AM »

No I think it was 1992 when the GOP went right on the social issues. The North isn't conservative on social issues like the Deep South is. The trend wasn't as pronounced in the Upper Midwest as it was maybe still is in the Northeast. Republicans can still win Ohio and be competitive in WI for example. Dems win IL because of Cook County. MI-I think the GOP lost Oakland County because of social issues though on the Presidential Level. The County Commissioner has been the same Republican for years though.

That's all true too.  I also meant by looking at the trends in the New England states throughout the 80's.  It's hard to see because of how much Reagan and even Bush won by, but there's a decline in their performances from the Eisenhower-Nixon era with the exceptions of 1964 and 1968.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2016, 01:59:53 AM »

MA and RI have always been blue.  Other than NH we don't have much of a chance anywhere up there. I could see us getting ME if we won by enough with a low voter turnout. As for the mid-north, PA is our only other hope unless your governor starts making some magic happen haha.  Over the last few elections, MD and DE have gone pretty far to the left.
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