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BlueSwan
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« on: August 16, 2017, 12:29:58 AM »

At this point, true centrists should be firmly in the democratic camp. Centrism is more or less dead in the GOP currently, with a select few exceptions in the senate. With a few exceptions I would argue that self-identified centrists voting for the GOP are actually republicans and not centrists.
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BlueSwan
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 01:03:44 PM »

At this point, true centrists should be firmly in the democratic camp. Centrism is more or less dead in the GOP currently, with a select few exceptions in the senate. With a few exceptions I would argue that self-identified centrists voting for the GOP are actually republicans and not centrists.

I shouldn't have to explain that you can be both on a political forum like this, but whatever.
If you read the very lines you quoted you would see that I write that "centrism is more or less dead in the GOP". Indeed, if you are a "centrist republican", you should feel very alone these days. Unfortunately. I wish it was different. I wish america had two respectable parties. That is not the case right now.
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BlueSwan
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 02:22:24 PM »

At this point, true centrists should be firmly in the democratic camp. Centrism is more or less dead in the GOP currently, with a select few exceptions in the senate. With a few exceptions I would argue that self-identified centrists voting for the GOP are actually republicans and not centrists.

I shouldn't have to explain that you can be both on a political forum like this, but whatever.
If you read the very lines you quoted you would see that I write that "centrism is more or less dead in the GOP". Indeed, if you are a "centrist republican", you should feel very alone these days. Unfortunately. I wish it was different. I wish america had two respectable parties. That is not the case right now.

You said "actually Republicans and NOT centrists," implying they can't coexist, though. 
I think they mean that the generalized Republican leadership/elected officials are not centrists, and that therefore "Republican centrist" voters (as opposed to their representatives) no longer have a home in the party, and should be voting Democrat if they're actual "centrists"
Thank you. English is not my native language!
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BlueSwan
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 02:23:22 PM »

At this point, true centrists should be firmly in the democratic camp. Centrism is more or less dead in the GOP currently, with a select few exceptions in the senate. With a few exceptions I would argue that self-identified centrists voting for the GOP are actually republicans and not centrists.

I shouldn't have to explain that you can be both on a political forum like this, but whatever.
If you read the very lines you quoted you would see that I write that "centrism is more or less dead in the GOP". Indeed, if you are a "centrist republican", you should feel very alone these days. Unfortunately. I wish it was different. I wish america had two respectable parties. That is not the case right now.

You said "actually Republicans and NOT centrists," implying they can't coexist, though. 
I think they mean that the generalized Republican leadership/elected officials are not centrists, and that therefore "Republican centrist" voters (as opposed to their representatives) no longer have a home in the party, and should be voting Democrat if they're actual "centrists"

Which, of course, I disagree with.  I know Democrats fancy themselves the "sensible" party, but the GOP going full nutjob does not, in and of itself, make the Democrats' policies or candidates "centrist."
True, but the GOP going full nutjob should at the very least make the democratic platform much more palatable to centrists.
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