Assange arrested

[Silent Hunter]

Air Force Blocks Media Sites - Wall Street Journal

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Most companies restrict and monitor employee internet usage.

What's your point?

That isn't surprising or that unjustified. These people are supposed to be working anyway, not reading diplomatic gossip.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Looks like his bail has been finally approved.

[minionofmidas]

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Giving their own soldiers the Chinese Treatment.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Uh, all of them can just view the stuff at home so this is hardly news, eh?

[Silent Hunter]

Uh, all of them can just view the stuff at home so this is hardly news, eh?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It isn't especially serious, but it does look extremely petty. Actually, more like a scalded cat. So is thus a representative sample of the way the U.S Government has handled this so far.

[Middle-aged Europe]

The U.S. is way overreacting to this anyway. Just restrict the access to confidential information, so that a simple Army corporal can't leak 250,000 documents anymore.

All this talk about charging Assange with espionage/conspiracy and hunting WikiLeaks like terrorists is excessive hyperbole.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The U.S. is way overreacting to this anyway. Just restrict the access to confidential information, so that a simple Army corporal can't leak 250,000 documents anymore.

All this talk about charging Assange with espionage/conspiracy and hunting WikiLeaks like terrorists is excessive hyperbole.

Do you (I mean others too) believe this was all the work of a lowly Army officer?  I think it's foolish to believe he doesn't a mole much higher up the food chain.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It appears his legal issues in Australia are over......wonder if it matters?

[Phony Moderate]

How can anyone criticise this great man?

[dead0man]

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What's your point?

That isn't surprising or that unjustified. These people are supposed to be working anyway, not reading diplomatic gossip.

[Mavvy]

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How can anyone criticise this great man?

I agree. Assange is a leader for a transparent and truly democratic government. I suspect most of his critics are simply brainwashed and the rest are just batsh**t insane social conservatives.

[Gustaf]

Eh. He doesn't really strike me as a great man, even if some of the stuff he did was good.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Eh. He doesn't really strike me as a great man, even if some of the stuff he did was good.

Gustaf, weren't you calling him a rapist not long ago, or was it someone else?  If it was you it's clear you think he's scum, no?

[Silent Hunter]

Eh. He doesn't really strike me as a great man, even if some of the stuff he did was good.

His sexual proclivities leave much to be desired; if he was a she, the view of him would be a lot more negative. Double standards as usual.

[Platypus]

Julian Assange released on bail

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216

About time

Assange's release on hold after Swedish appeal against the bail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11989216

Assange gets out Thursday.  200k pounds bail (over 300k in US currency).  Has to wear ankle bracelet, strict curfew (can't leave home 10AM-2PM and 10PM-2AM), turn in his passport.

I find it interesting that they're taking such stringent measures toward a non-dangerous criminal.

He's not a British subject, or an EU citizen, and it's a sexual crime. The fact he even got bail is the surprise.

[Gustaf]

Eh. He doesn't really strike me as a great man, even if some of the stuff he did was good.

Gustaf, weren't you calling him a rapist not long ago, or was it someone else?  If it was you it's clear you think he's scum, no?

I don't think I've explicitly called him a rapist (although I might have worded it wrong in the heat of the moment).

What I've reacted to is rather the common reactions, especially on here, which basically amounts to women in general being lying bitches and great men being entitled to women.

And just in general the propensity for assuming that someone you agree with politically must be innocent even though the trial has not even begun yet.

I try to be cautious in assuming too much when no official information reagarding the accusations has been released.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

He's not a British subject, or an EU citizen, and it's a sexual crime. The fact he even got bail is the surprise.

British citizen; the term British subject has been archaic for nearly seventy years now. But, yeah, exactly. He's not been treated in an unusual way at all. Actually, the only genuinely weird behavior has come from his legal team.

[Silent Hunter]

He's not a British subject, or an EU citizen, and it's a sexual crime. The fact he even got bail is the surprise.

British citizen; the term British subject has been archaic for nearly seventy years now.

Archaic, but still a legal term.

It sounds a fairly serious crime as well.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Archaic, but still a legal term.

That's what I went for archaic rather than obsolete

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Indeed the fact that the crimes he's accused of in Sweden might not actually constitute crimes in the UK at all

Why do people keep saying that when it is obviously not true?

[Silent Hunter]

Indeed the fact that the crimes he's accused of in Sweden might not actually constitute crimes in the UK at all

Why do people keep saying that when it is obviously not true?

Actually I'll make a retraction in so far as the charge relating to having sex with a sleeping woman would quite probably constitute rape per British law.

The rest I'm not so sure would constitute crimes in Britain in the absence of further detail (the most likely candidate is the charge relating to violation of sexual integrity might have a correlative law in Britain - but I don't know enough about the specifics of Swedish or British law to say with any certainty).

The one about the not using the condom. If consent was conditional on the use of a condom and he didn't use one, then consent is not present. That's rape.

[Gustaf]

Indeed the fact that the crimes he's accused of in Sweden might not actually constitute crimes in the UK at all

Why do people keep saying that when it is obviously not true?

Actually I'll make a retraction in so far as the charge relating to having sex with a sleeping woman would quite probably constitute rape per British law.

The rest I'm not so sure would constitute crimes in Britain in the absence of further detail (the most likely candidate is the charge relating to violation of sexual integrity might have a correlative law in Britain - but I don't know enough about the specifics of Swedish or British law to say with any certainty).

The one about the not using the condom. If consent was conditional on the use of a condom and he didn't use one, then consent is not present. That's rape.

Especially if the woman is sleeping.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Indeed the fact that the crimes he's accused of in Sweden might not actually constitute crimes in the UK at all

Why do people keep saying that when it is obviously not true?

Actually I'll make a retraction in so far as the charge relating to having sex with a sleeping woman would quite probably constitute rape per British law.

The rest I'm not so sure would constitute crimes in Britain in the absence of further detail (the most likely candidate is the charge relating to violation of sexual integrity might have a correlative law in Britain - but I don't know enough about the specifics of Swedish or British law to say with any certainty).

The one about the not using the condom. If consent was conditional on the use of a condom and he didn't use one, then consent is not present. That's rape.

Especially if the woman is sleeping.

Wait, you have a sense of humor? 

[Silent Hunter]

Indeed the fact that the crimes he's accused of in Sweden might not actually constitute crimes in the UK at all

Why do people keep saying that when it is obviously not true?

Actually I'll make a retraction in so far as the charge relating to having sex with a sleeping woman would quite probably constitute rape per British law.

The rest I'm not so sure would constitute crimes in Britain in the absence of further detail (the most likely candidate is the charge relating to violation of sexual integrity might have a correlative law in Britain - but I don't know enough about the specifics of Swedish or British law to say with any certainty).

The one about the not using the condom. If consent was conditional on the use of a condom and he didn't use one, then consent is not present. That's rape.

Especially if the woman is sleeping.

I was referring to one of the other accusations.