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« on: November 12, 2020, 08:58:01 PM »

badger is talking on the Atlas discord while I was. It wasn't me.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2020, 02:21:41 PM »

LouisvilleThunder was the sock so it wasn't me
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2020, 04:36:03 PM »

Honestly, suggesting that LT did this is an insult to his intelligence.
I don't have a phone and I have never used the discord app and when I use discord, I do it on the browser by doing discord.com/login. I also don't have a android device.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2020, 10:49:55 PM »

So Ishan just gets away with it? Sad, this just encourages us to do whatever it takes to win because clearly there are no actual non partisan moral standards here.
It wasn't me, stop coming to conclusions.

How can the DA do anything, I am not a member of the DA, and the next election is in January and I'm pretty sure they didn't hold a endorsement vote in October.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2020, 05:47:46 PM »

So Ishan just gets away with it? Sad, this just encourages us to do whatever it takes to win because clearly there are no actual non partisan moral standards here.

The Lincoln Council is addressing this with a censure resolution that encourages Ishan to resign, and I believe that resolution is sufficient punishment.

Good work, though a few years ago Ishan might already have resigned in disgrace.
I am not going to resign for what I didn't do.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2020, 06:59:17 PM »

The point isn't so much what order things happened in, but that Ishan was involved in some way. We know that much, and Ishan admitted as much on discord.

If the Senate wishes to Censure LT, I welcome them doing so.
I didn't know anything beforehand, I might have misworded what i said.
I was sent a link by MB to be banned from Laborcord with my IP and since I knew that I'm not going to be on Laborcord, I was wondering how many people in Conservacord would be in Laborcord before MB's link expired.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2020, 07:12:11 PM »

The point isn't so much what order things happened in, but that Ishan was involved in some way. We know that much, and Ishan admitted as much on discord.

If the Senate wishes to Censure LT, I welcome them doing so.
I didn't know anything beforehand, I might have misworded what i said.
I was sent a link by MB to be banned from Laborcord with my IP and since I knew that I'm not going to be on Laborcord, I was wondering how many people in Conservacord would be in Laborcord before MB's link expired.
So you admit to at the very least, spreading a link to hostile actors that you knew contained highly classified information.

That isn't an admirable action and you should be ashamed.
When I was in Laborcord for 5 seconds, I could only see #general.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2020, 07:15:53 PM »

The point isn't so much what order things happened in, but that Ishan was involved in some way. We know that much, and Ishan admitted as much on discord.

If the Senate wishes to Censure LT, I welcome them doing so.
I didn't know anything beforehand, I might have misworded what i said.
I was sent a link by MB to be banned from Laborcord with my IP and since I knew that I'm not going to be on Laborcord, I was wondering how many people in Conservacord would be in Laborcord before MB's link expired.
So you admit to at the very least, spreading a link to hostile actors that you knew contained highly classified information.

That isn't an admirable action and you should be ashamed.
When I was in Laborcord for 5 seconds, I could only see #general.

Even that is highly classified
I doubt that contains anything of value, giving that MB admitted that "badger" got some images from the archived discord channels
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2020, 08:18:33 AM »


WTF is "Pragdaddy"?

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2020, 07:15:31 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2020, 07:22:18 PM by Councilor Ishan »

Just as a note, posting images containing the F word is problematic from a forum level perspective and I stumbled across the reports Sunday morning and resolved them without infraction because I am generous person. Something to be mindful of.

Now with the forum level stuff out of the way, can someone please tell me what is going on here?
So basically, Labor thinks I impersonated "badger" on discord, they found out when YT found out about some images on Laborcord.

LT admitted to being badger and admitted he sent leaks to YT about Labor's jokes about him, which includes jokes about how he would make all of his cult slaves and how he'd impregnate some of his hypothetical slaves.

Labor thinks that I was "badger" however, I have no incentive to send any images to YT about how Labor thinks of him.

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2020, 07:35:20 PM »

Just as a note, posting images containing the F word is problematic from a forum level perspective and I stumbled across the reports Sunday morning and resolved them without infraction because I am generous person. Something to be mindful of.

Now with the forum level stuff out of the way, can someone please tell me what is going on here?
So basically, Labor thinks I impersonated "badger" on discord, they found out when YT found out about some images on Laborcord.

LT admitted to being badger and admitted he sent leaks to YT about Labor's jokes about him, which includes jokes about how he would make all of his cult slaves and how he'd impregnate some of his hypothetical slaves.

Labor thinks that I was "badger" however, I have no incentive to send any images to YT about how Labor thinks of him.


Silence, drunk 'badger'.

What actually happened, as can be derived by the screenshots, is that an unknown opposition member impersonated Badger (a zombie voter) - and based on the patterns of speech that 'badger' had, including his penchant for Atlasian history, kind words for Ishan and awareness of his beef with multiple Laborites (who the actual Badger has probably interacted little with), and unclean grammar, Labor deduced that this was quite transparently Ishan.

Additionally, Ishan was known to have possessed a rogue Laborcord invite, which he used to breach Laborcord the day prior to this incident. And if LT was behind this, it would have been executed far more neatly - LT has no reason to implicate Ishan in this.

As for motive, Ishan is very clearly one of the Atlasians with a strong hatred for Labor, and as 'badger's comments evidenced, a multitude of its members. Additionally, if my memory holds true, he previously commented on wanting to infiltrate Laborcord on Lokcord. So frankly there's no reason why he wouldn't have motivation to execute such a 'plan'.
How does this explain the leaked images to YT, when the last time YT talked to me was last June asking me to vote for him and I was never in the YT cult.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2020, 07:58:03 PM »

Just as a note, posting images containing the F word is problematic from a forum level perspective and I stumbled across the reports Sunday morning and resolved them without infraction because I am generous person. Something to be mindful of.

Now with the forum level stuff out of the way, can someone please tell me what is going on here?
So basically, Labor thinks I impersonated "badger" on discord, they found out when YT found out about some images on Laborcord.

LT admitted to being badger and admitted he sent leaks to YT about Labor's jokes about him, which includes jokes about how he would make all of his cult slaves and how he'd impregnate some of his hypothetical slaves.

Labor thinks that I was "badger" however, I have no incentive to send any images to YT about how Labor thinks of him.


Silence, drunk 'badger'.

What actually happened, as can be derived by the screenshots, is that an unknown opposition member impersonated Badger (a zombie voter) - and based on the patterns of speech that 'badger' had, including his penchant for Atlasian history, kind words for Ishan and awareness of his beef with multiple Laborites (who the actual Badger has probably interacted little with), and unclean grammar, Labor deduced that this was quite transparently Ishan.

Additionally, Ishan was known to have possessed a rogue Laborcord invite, which he used to breach Laborcord the day prior to this incident. And if LT was behind this, it would have been executed far more neatly - LT has no reason to implicate Ishan in this.

As for motive, Ishan is very clearly one of the Atlasians with a strong hatred for Labor, and as 'badger's comments evidenced, a multitude of its members. Additionally, if my memory holds true, he previously commented on wanting to infiltrate Laborcord on Lokcord. So frankly there's no reason why he wouldn't have motivation to execute such a 'plan'.
How does this explain the leaked images to YT, when the last time YT talked to me was last June asking me to vote for him and I was never in the YT cult.
Simple. Enemy of the enemy is friend. Plus, LT could have forwarded it to YT. There's plenty of explanations for it, none of which clear you from suspicion.
If I was in Laborcord, I wouldn't only leak things MB said about YT and send it to LT or somebody who'd send it to YT.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2020, 09:16:05 PM »

If I was in Laborcord, I wouldn't only leak things MB said about YT and send it to LT or somebody who'd send it to YT.

And how do we know you didn't? The MB leaks didn't even reach the public until YT made comments about them. For all we know, you could've leaked other Laborcord logs secretly without anyone knowing. Well, except for the people who you would want to know about it.
Seeing as Labor paints me as a retarded idiot with no political instincts, I'm impressed that you think I'm some kind of mastermind that leaked the entirety of Laborcord to non-Laborites.
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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2020, 09:43:57 PM »
« Edited: November 17, 2020, 09:47:18 PM by Councilor Ishan »

If I was in Laborcord, I wouldn't only leak things MB said about YT and send it to LT or somebody who'd send it to YT.

And how do we know you didn't? The MB leaks didn't even reach the public until YT made comments about them. For all we know, you could've leaked other Laborcord logs secretly without anyone knowing. Well, except for the people who you would want to know about it.

Seeing as Labor paints me as a retarded idiot with no political instincts, I'm impressed that you think I'm some kind of mastermind that leaked the entirety of Laborcord to non-Laborites.

I'm not saying you leaked the entirety of Labiacord, I'm saying that it's possible that you could've leaked more than just the MB stuff and we'd have no way of knowing.
If I leaked it, I'd have access to the archive according to MB, who said that he gave "badger" access to the archive, and presuming that there is a role to the archive only, which I guess there is, tell me if there isn't, "badger" saw labor's older strategy. If the archive role includes the strategy, which I wouldn't do, "badger" would have access to the strategy and Labor's strategy is pretty clear after you see it for a while, in the NPC elections triage a state because it's too safe for the other party, focus on another one, Labor's strategy for House/President is pretty obvious, Labor's strategy for Senate is obvious and Labor's strategy for Regional offices is obvious. I have no interest seeing their strategies because it's obvious, and it has been for a while for me.

Edit: For those who want to know, Labor's strategy is vote dumps in the end and zombies voting across the weekend.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2020, 09:50:00 PM »

If I was in Laborcord, I wouldn't only leak things MB said about YT and send it to LT or somebody who'd send it to YT.

And how do we know you didn't? The MB leaks didn't even reach the public until YT made comments about them. For all we know, you could've leaked other Laborcord logs secretly without anyone knowing. Well, except for the people who you would want to know about it.

Seeing as Labor paints me as a retarded idiot with no political instincts, I'm impressed that you think I'm some kind of mastermind that leaked the entirety of Laborcord to non-Laborites.

I'm not saying you leaked the entirety of Labiacord, I'm saying that it's possible that you could've leaked more than just the MB stuff and we'd have no way of knowing.
If I leaked it, I'd have access to the archive according to MB, who said that he gave "badger" access to the archive, and presuming that there is a role to the archive only, which I guess there is, tell me if there isn't, "badger" saw labor's older strategy. If the archive role includes the strategy, which I wouldn't do, "badger" would have access to the strategy and Labor's strategy is pretty clear after you see it for a while, in the NPC elections triage a state because it's too safe for the other party, focus on another one, Labor's strategy for House/President is pretty obvious, Labor's strategy for Senate is obvious and Labor's strategy for Regional offices is obvious. I have no interest seeing their strategies because it's obvious, and it has been for a while for me.
And this acquits you because...?
I have no interest in seeking out Labor strategy.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2020, 09:37:53 PM »

If I was in Laborcord, I wouldn't only leak things MB said about YT and send it to LT or somebody who'd send it to YT.

And how do we know you didn't? The MB leaks didn't even reach the public until YT made comments about them. For all we know, you could've leaked other Laborcord logs secretly without anyone knowing. Well, except for the people who you would want to know about it.

Seeing as Labor paints me as a retarded idiot with no political instincts, I'm impressed that you think I'm some kind of mastermind that leaked the entirety of Laborcord to non-Laborites.

I'm not saying you leaked the entirety of Labiacord, I'm saying that it's possible that you could've leaked more than just the MB stuff and we'd have no way of knowing.
If I leaked it, I'd have access to the archive according to MB, who said that he gave "badger" access to the archive, and presuming that there is a role to the archive only, which I guess there is, tell me if there isn't, "badger" saw labor's older strategy. If the archive role includes the strategy, which I wouldn't do, "badger" would have access to the strategy and Labor's strategy is pretty clear after you see it for a while, in the NPC elections triage a state because it's too safe for the other party, focus on another one, Labor's strategy for House/President is pretty obvious, Labor's strategy for Senate is obvious and Labor's strategy for Regional offices is obvious. I have no interest seeing their strategies because it's obvious, and it has been for a while for me.
And this acquits you because...?
I have no interest in seeking out Labor strategy.

How do we know that's the truth, though?

You haven't been able to disprove one speck of our evidence directly implicating you. Stop dragging this on if you can't.
You are the one dragging it over some points which you are making hoops over something that is false, not me.
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