SB 107-03: Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Full Repeal Act (Passed)
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« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2022, 06:22:17 AM »

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« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2022, 06:27:24 AM »

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« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2022, 09:11:53 AM »

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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2022, 10:55:19 AM »

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« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2022, 01:12:51 PM »

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« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2022, 01:19:36 PM »

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« Reply #56 on: January 12, 2022, 01:20:22 PM »

S019 why do you always motion to table bills you don’t like instead of just voting them down? Waste of time.
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« Reply #57 on: January 12, 2022, 02:12:04 PM »

AYE, 'cause I'm sick of this getting reintroduced and failing every damn session
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« Reply #58 on: January 12, 2022, 03:16:41 PM »

I vote aye.
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« Reply #59 on: January 12, 2022, 03:29:44 PM »

a.) Car accidents are inevitible unless you want to ban cars

Gun murders are inevitable unless you want to go door to door rounding up 350 million guns. How can you so coldly ignore the almost 100,000 Atlasians dying every year? That does not comport with your "logic".

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b.) Alcohol related deaths are inherently the fault of the drinker, not the fault of someone else, so unless you are suggesting that those who die of gun violence are somehow responsible for their death, I don't see how a comparison works.

Drunk drivers kill other people. Alcoholism is a disease. 80% of gun deaths are 1. Suicide 2. Gangs 3. Law enforcement caused. That means 80% of gun deaths do bear some resposibility. If anything the comparison makes your "logic" seem more illogical.

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c.) Same thing from b.) applies to swimming pools.

So if a baby drowns in a pool its the baby's fault? Impecable "logic".

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d.) Similar logic to b.); people can choose to get vaccinated against the flu (and yes, I do support mandating the COVID19 vaccine but that's not what's being debated and addressed here and in this bill, so not sure how relevant it is right now)

Unvaccinated flu spreaders kill lots of olds. Again the idea that only guns and literally nothing else have externalities that statistically result in the deaths of others is not rooted in fact or "logic".

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e.) It isn't a criminal registry, so let's make that very clear to begin with. It's just a way to track all guns, and it wouldn't be publicly accessible, hypothetically.

And when I dont register my guns am I a criminal?

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f.) Sorry you feel that way. Luckily, you don't unilateraly decide who gets impeached and the overall Senate isn't as reactionary as you are (as your username is a clear indicator).

Id rather be a reactionary that someone tyrannically supporting the imprisonment of 20 million atlasians to "save" maybe 400 all while violating my oath of office to protect the Atlasian Constitution. If you really cared about Atlasians dying youd target the myriad of activities that kill many, many times more people than skerry boombooms. You just want to ban guns because you dislike them, not because you have some "logical" principle on protecting human life. Why is the life of a shooting victim worth more than the life of someone killed by another driver? Oh, because you personally use cars but dont use guns. Screw the 38,000 car accident victims and screw the 20 million assault weapon owners.



Since you have made clearly unintelligent and illogical statements, and will not be moved to oppose the repeal, I'm not going to further engage with you (other senators have privately adivsed me to do this as well).
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« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2022, 03:35:54 PM »

Nay to tabling.
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« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2022, 03:46:22 PM »

a.) Car accidents are inevitible unless you want to ban cars

Gun murders are inevitable unless you want to go door to door rounding up 350 million guns. How can you so coldly ignore the almost 100,000 Atlasians dying every year? That does not comport with your "logic".

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b.) Alcohol related deaths are inherently the fault of the drinker, not the fault of someone else, so unless you are suggesting that those who die of gun violence are somehow responsible for their death, I don't see how a comparison works.

Drunk drivers kill other people. Alcoholism is a disease. 80% of gun deaths are 1. Suicide 2. Gangs 3. Law enforcement caused. That means 80% of gun deaths do bear some resposibility. If anything the comparison makes your "logic" seem more illogical.

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c.) Same thing from b.) applies to swimming pools.

So if a baby drowns in a pool its the baby's fault? Impecable "logic".

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d.) Similar logic to b.); people can choose to get vaccinated against the flu (and yes, I do support mandating the COVID19 vaccine but that's not what's being debated and addressed here and in this bill, so not sure how relevant it is right now)

Unvaccinated flu spreaders kill lots of olds. Again the idea that only guns and literally nothing else have externalities that statistically result in the deaths of others is not rooted in fact or "logic".

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e.) It isn't a criminal registry, so let's make that very clear to begin with. It's just a way to track all guns, and it wouldn't be publicly accessible, hypothetically.

And when I dont register my guns am I a criminal?

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f.) Sorry you feel that way. Luckily, you don't unilateraly decide who gets impeached and the overall Senate isn't as reactionary as you are (as your username is a clear indicator).

Id rather be a reactionary that someone tyrannically supporting the imprisonment of 20 million atlasians to "save" maybe 400 all while violating my oath of office to protect the Atlasian Constitution. If you really cared about Atlasians dying youd target the myriad of activities that kill many, many times more people than skerry boombooms. You just want to ban guns because you dislike them, not because you have some "logical" principle on protecting human life. Why is the life of a shooting victim worth more than the life of someone killed by another driver? Oh, because you personally use cars but dont use guns. Screw the 38,000 car accident victims and screw the 20 million assault weapon owners.



Since you have made clearly unintelligent and illogical statements, and will not be moved to oppose the repeal, I'm not going to further engage with you (other senators have privately adivsed me to do this as well).

You literally just did in the middle of a vote.
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« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2022, 05:28:54 PM »

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« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2022, 06:25:13 PM »

S019 why do you always motion to table bills you don’t like instead of just voting them down? Waste of time.

Filibuster tactic
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« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2022, 03:58:14 PM »

Speaking of delaying tactics, here's something just for funsies. Proposing an amendment:

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AN ACT
To repeal the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act in its entirety.



Be it enacted by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled

Section 1. Title

1. This act may be cited as the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Full Repeal Act.

Section 2. Definitions

2. All sections of the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act are hereby repealed in their entirety, effective immediately.

Section 3. Commending an Atlasian Public Servant
3. PPT Western Democrat is hereby commended for doing a spiffing good job.


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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2022, 04:01:10 PM »

Speaking of delaying tactics, here's something just for funsies. Proposing an amendment:

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AN ACT
To repeal the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act in its entirety.



Be it enacted by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled

Section 1. Title

1. This act may be cited as the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Full Repeal Act.

Section 2. Definitions

2. All sections of the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act are hereby repealed in their entirety, effective immediately.

Section 3. Commending an Atlasian Public Servant
3. PPT Western Democrat is hereby commended for doing a spiffing good job.




Invoking Article 3, Section 1 here and declaring this frivolous. Sorry, OBD.
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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2022, 04:11:49 PM »

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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2022, 04:20:43 PM »

Speaking of delaying tactics, here's something just for funsies. Proposing an amendment:

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AN ACT
To repeal the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act in its entirety.



Be it enacted by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled

Section 1. Title

1. This act may be cited as the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Full Repeal Act.

Section 2. Definitions

2. All sections of the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act are hereby repealed in their entirety, effective immediately.

Section 3. Commending an Atlasian Public Servant
3. PPT Western Democrat is hereby commended for doing a spiffing good job.




Invoking Article 3, Section 1 here and declaring this frivolous. Sorry, OBD.

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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2022, 04:52:00 PM »

Speaking of delaying tactics, here's something just for funsies. Proposing an amendment:

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AN ACT
To repeal the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act in its entirety.



Be it enacted by the Senate of the Republic of Atlasia assembled

Section 1. Title

1. This act may be cited as the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Full Repeal Act.

Section 2. Definitions

2. All sections of the Federal Assault Weapon and Automatic Weapon Ban Act are hereby repealed in their entirety, effective immediately.

Section 3. Commending an Atlasian Public Servant
3. PPT Western Democrat is hereby commended for doing a spiffing good job.




Invoking Article 3, Section 1 here and declaring this frivolous. Sorry, OBD.

bruh

You can motion to override that declaration, you know:

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The President Pro Tempore may remove amendments from consideration that are functionally impractical, frivolous, directly unconstitutional, or lack clear intent regarding the changes to be made. The amendment sponsor shall have 24 hours to object to the decision and may overturn the action with the concurrence of 1/3rd of his fellow Senators.
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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2022, 05:22:21 PM »

These rules are not meant to be used as filibuster tactics. If a minority of senators wants to follow Wulfric's encouragement to abuse the Senate rules, they can be changed very easily.
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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2022, 05:25:40 PM »

These rules are not meant to be abused as filibuster tactics. If a minority of senators wants to follow Wulfric's encouragement to abuse the rules, they can be changed very easily.

Well if you guys would drop this heartless repeal, we would never have to consider these "tactics" to begin with.
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« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2022, 05:28:50 PM »

These rules are not meant to be abused as filibuster tactics. If a minority of senators wants to follow Wulfric's encouragement to abuse the rules, they can be changed very easily.

Well if you guys would drop this heartless repeal, we would never have to consider these "tactics" to begin with.
You thinking that all non-Christians and LGBT people will be sent to hell could also be considered heartless but you aren't dropping that so it is very hypocritical for you to call this heartless when a lot of your beliefs are heartless.
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« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2022, 05:31:33 PM »

These rules are not meant to be abused as filibuster tactics. If a minority of senators wants to follow Wulfric's encouragement to abuse the rules, they can be changed very easily.

Well if you guys would drop this heartless repeal, we would never have to consider these "tactics" to begin with.

Yeah, not how it works. I would never support a filibuster in Atlasia under any circumstances. But if people like you want to ruin the game, I guess I don't have a vote in this chamber anymore.

Let me make this perfectly clear: I will never support anyone for office who supports introducing the filibuster or abusing the rules in such a way. I don't care if it's this bill or any other. I don't care what party you are in, either.
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« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2022, 05:39:29 PM »

Hilarious S019 accused me of trying to avoid discussion and real democracy by pushing for a vote like one time and his dumbass is grandstanding this entire fking thing. True hypocrisy. Labor can do better than an establishment neoliberal stuck in the 1990s.


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« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2022, 05:49:55 PM »

Hilarious S019 accused me of trying to avoid discussion and real democracy by pushing for a vote like one time and his dumbass is grandstanding this entire fking thing. True hypocrisy. Labor can do better than an establishment neoliberal stuck in the 1990s.


Nay on Tabling

You are aware that literally every country accepted "neoliberalism" in the 1980s and 1990s as a response to stagflation, this response is not the clever own you think it is. In fact, it just makes you come off as someone who has literally no idea what you're talking about. Also mind you, this is like the third time we are discussing this nonsense, so it's not like this issue shouldn't be dead and buried, but of course, people like you will refuse to give up their obsession with giving people the "freedom" to be able to kill others. Make no mistake, if this passes, you and everyone else who voted for it, will have blood on their hands. History will remember you as cowards who cowed to the gun industry and enabled the return of the uniquely American scourge of gun violence.
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